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hoopsaddict Tue Jan 01, 2013 10:17pm

Ucon MU OT
 
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michblue Tue Jan 01, 2013 10:21pm

I have the exact same question?

Raymond Tue Jan 01, 2013 10:23pm

On what basis did they give MU (Marquette?) the ball?

NCHSAA Tue Jan 01, 2013 10:25pm

NCAA 4-71: Act of Shooting

"A try for field goal is an attempt by a player to score by throwing or tapping the ball into their basket"

zm1283 Tue Jan 01, 2013 10:27pm

I would like to see video of this if anyone can dig it up. I was watching this game earlier but switched off of it.

NCHSAA Tue Jan 01, 2013 10:27pm

Since there was no goaltend the only means of determining control was the arrow. Which favored Marquette since UConn won the tip, even going the wrong way.

cmckenna Tue Jan 01, 2013 10:30pm

But why was the GT cancelled out? I think they screwed the pooch here and went with the "shot at wrong basket so can't have GT" even though the officials set them up going the wrong way....

NCHSAA Tue Jan 01, 2013 10:32pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by cmckenna (Post 869434)
But why was the GT cancelled out? I think they screwed the pooch here and went with the "shot at wrong basket so can't have GT" even though the officials set them up going the wrong way....

Wrong basket = not a try = no goaltend

cmckenna Tue Jan 01, 2013 10:35pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by NCHSAA (Post 869436)
Wrong basket = not a try = no goaltend

But the officials set them up going the wrong way off the tip! When that happens, you trat it as if they were going the right way and then get them going the right way once it is found out

NCHSAA Tue Jan 01, 2013 10:49pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by cmckenna (Post 869437)
But the officials set them up going the wrong way off the tip! When that happens, you trat it as if they were going the right way and then get them going the right way once it is found out

Doing so would violate the definition of a "try" as quoted in a previous post. If there was no attemped goaltend and Marquette went the wrong way also and scored then yes you would correct as if they went the proper way. However, the attemped goaltend is the difference here.

NCHSAA Tue Jan 01, 2013 10:53pm

For any new guys!!
 
Given the situation as in the UConn/Marquette game where a player goes to the wrong basket. Here is a hypothetical situation that can happen:

A1 attempts a lay-up and is fouled. Upon the whistle and reporting of the foul the officials recognize that A1 attempted the shot at Team B's basket (the wrong basket).

1) How would you administer (shots, foul, etc)
2) Team A is in the bonus

Triad zebra Tue Jan 01, 2013 11:03pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by NCHSAA (Post 869440)
Given the situation as in the UConn/Marquette game where a player goes to the wrong basket. Here is a hypothetical situation that can happen:

A1 attempts a lay-up and is fouled. Upon the whistle and reporting of the foul the officials recognize that A1 attempted the shot at Team B's basket (the wrong basket).

1) How would you administer (shots, foul, etc)
2) Team A is in the bonus

I haven't seen the video yet, but the OP says they were lined up on the jump going the wrong way. (officials error). This will cause the answers to 1&2 to be a bit different than just A1 getting confused and throwing ball at the wrong basket.

HawkeyeCubP Tue Jan 01, 2013 11:04pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by NCHSAA (Post 869439)
Doing so would violate the definition of a "try" as quoted in a previous post. If there was no attemped goaltend and Marquette went the wrong way also and scored then yes you would correct as if they went the proper way. However, the attemped goaltend is the difference here.

So if the teams went the wrong directions the entire first half, and you don't realize it until the horn sounds to end the period, what would you do?

NCHSAA Tue Jan 01, 2013 11:06pm

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Originally Posted by Triad zebra (Post 869441)
I haven't seen the video yet, but the OP says they were lined up on the jump going the wrong way. (officials error). This will cause the answers to 1&2 to be a bit different than just A1 getting confused and throwing ball at the wrong basket.

I beg to differ (and can be wrong). In both cases you have a shot at the wrong basket. Whether by confusion during the game or going the wrong way after the tip. Though most of the time it is after the tip that you will see the situation I presented.

NCHSAA Tue Jan 01, 2013 11:08pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by HawkeyeCubP (Post 869442)
So if the teams went the wrong directions the entire first half, and you don't realize it until the horn sounds to end the period, what would you do?

Treat it as if they went the proper direction, which is different than what happened in the game in question.


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