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Old Tue Jan 01, 2013, 10:32pm
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But why was the GT cancelled out? I think they screwed the pooch here and went with the "shot at wrong basket so can't have GT" even though the officials set them up going the wrong way....
Wrong basket = not a try = no goaltend
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Old Tue Jan 01, 2013, 10:35pm
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Wrong basket = not a try = no goaltend
But the officials set them up going the wrong way off the tip! When that happens, you trat it as if they were going the right way and then get them going the right way once it is found out
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Old Tue Jan 01, 2013, 10:49pm
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But the officials set them up going the wrong way off the tip! When that happens, you trat it as if they were going the right way and then get them going the right way once it is found out
Doing so would violate the definition of a "try" as quoted in a previous post. If there was no attemped goaltend and Marquette went the wrong way also and scored then yes you would correct as if they went the proper way. However, the attemped goaltend is the difference here.
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Old Tue Jan 01, 2013, 10:53pm
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Given the situation as in the UConn/Marquette game where a player goes to the wrong basket. Here is a hypothetical situation that can happen:

A1 attempts a lay-up and is fouled. Upon the whistle and reporting of the foul the officials recognize that A1 attempted the shot at Team B's basket (the wrong basket).

1) How would you administer (shots, foul, etc)
2) Team A is in the bonus
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Old Tue Jan 01, 2013, 11:03pm
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Given the situation as in the UConn/Marquette game where a player goes to the wrong basket. Here is a hypothetical situation that can happen:

A1 attempts a lay-up and is fouled. Upon the whistle and reporting of the foul the officials recognize that A1 attempted the shot at Team B's basket (the wrong basket).

1) How would you administer (shots, foul, etc)
2) Team A is in the bonus
I haven't seen the video yet, but the OP says they were lined up on the jump going the wrong way. (officials error). This will cause the answers to 1&2 to be a bit different than just A1 getting confused and throwing ball at the wrong basket.
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Old Tue Jan 01, 2013, 11:06pm
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I haven't seen the video yet, but the OP says they were lined up on the jump going the wrong way. (officials error). This will cause the answers to 1&2 to be a bit different than just A1 getting confused and throwing ball at the wrong basket.
I beg to differ (and can be wrong). In both cases you have a shot at the wrong basket. Whether by confusion during the game or going the wrong way after the tip. Though most of the time it is after the tip that you will see the situation I presented.
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Old Wed Jan 02, 2013, 12:06am
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The officials erred in allowing the teams to line up and go the wrong way. The GT should score the basket, then turn the teams around and continue play. The crew screwed the pooch.
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Old Tue Jan 01, 2013, 11:04pm
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Doing so would violate the definition of a "try" as quoted in a previous post. If there was no attemped goaltend and Marquette went the wrong way also and scored then yes you would correct as if they went the proper way. However, the attemped goaltend is the difference here.
So if the teams went the wrong directions the entire first half, and you don't realize it until the horn sounds to end the period, what would you do?
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Old Tue Jan 01, 2013, 11:08pm
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So if the teams went the wrong directions the entire first half, and you don't realize it until the horn sounds to end the period, what would you do?
Treat it as if they went the proper direction, which is different than what happened in the game in question.
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Old Tue Jan 01, 2013, 11:11pm
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Treat it as if they went the proper direction, which is different than what happened in the game in question.
How is it different? In both cases, the officials allowed the players to go the wrong direction to start a period, no?

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Old Tue Jan 01, 2013, 11:17pm
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How is it different? In both cases, the officials allowed the players to go the wrong direction to start a period, no?
I agree. The difference IMO is the situation that leads to the discovery. Which in this case is the "goaltend". You cannot have one at the wrong basket and you must correct the wrong direction based on that situation.
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Old Wed Jan 02, 2013, 01:59am
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Wrong basket = not a try = no goaltend
Then uconn should have been given the ball by virtue of team control.
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Old Wed Jan 02, 2013, 03:00am
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Wrong basket = not a try = no goaltend
It is only the wrong basket if the teams were going the right directions. Since they started the OT going the wrong way, it was the correct basket until they turned them around.

Thus, it was a try and it was a GT.
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