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Old Mon Dec 31, 2012, 06:48pm
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"Awarding an unmerited FT" is a CE.
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Old Mon Dec 31, 2012, 07:04pm
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"Awarding an unmerited FT" is a CE.
It is not my point. They did not have a CE, they missapplied the rule. They should know it is a TC foul you never shoot FTs on and should know this was a TC foul even if the player had grabbed the ball. They were on offense.

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Old Mon Dec 31, 2012, 07:14pm
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It is not my point. They did not have a CE, they missapplied the rule. They should know it is a TC foul you never shoot FTs on and should know this was a TC foul even if the player had grabbed the ball. They were on offense.

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They misapplied a rule, if you want to put it that way, which resulted in a correctable error. What is your point?
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Old Mon Dec 31, 2012, 07:15pm
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They misapplied a rule, if you want to put it that way, which resulted in a correctable error. What is your point?
It did not result in anything. They play stood from all accounts. That is the point.

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Old Mon Dec 31, 2012, 07:19pm
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It did not result in anything. They play stood from all accounts. That is the point.

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But it was still a correctable error. They just failed to correct it.
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Old Mon Dec 31, 2012, 07:20pm
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It is not my point. They did not have a CE, they missapplied the rule. They should know it is a TC foul you never shoot FTs on and should know this was a TC foul even if the player had grabbed the ball. They were on offense.

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I think you're missing the big picture here. Everyone acknowledges the officials incorrectly awarded free throws. The teaching point here is the Correctable Error...When and How this error can be corrected.

Hypothetically, what if Mich St makes the first free throw and misses the second with the subsequent Mich St foul? After the whistle for the foul, if the officials realized they incorrectly awarded the free throws, they would take the point off the board for the first free throw but count the subsequent Mich State foul after the miss (as it was not part of the free throw). Minnesota would shoot free throw(s) if in the bonus or take the ball OOB if not in the bonus. But since he missed the free throw, the officials were saved...

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Old Tue Jan 01, 2013, 10:40am
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"Awarding an unmerited FT" is a CE.
So, is this another one of those CE situation where we blame a coach for not 'pointing it out' to us.
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