Hadn't Seen this Before

[rekent]

I know the definition of the time-out area, so I don't need that posted, but I saw something odd during a BV tourney championship tonight and am curious about opinions.

1. 60-sec timeout, A is still in huddle standing on floor at first horn, B breaks huddle at first and B players come lean in A's huddle listening to coach. A coach notices as he breaks huddle and goes ballistic but doesn't get whacked.

2. A1 fouls out, A coach is on the clock to replace and calls team over for huddle on court, once again several B players come up behind A players and stick their ears in to listen. Coach goes crazy and gets whacked this time.

In both cases, do you have anything?

[just another ref]

1. shoo the B guys away

2. This is not a timeout. They can go where they want.

[rekent]

Originally Posted by just another ref

1. shoo the B guys away

2. This is not a timeout. They can go where they want.

For 2, I thought the coach was out of luck and should just shutup.

For 1 though, I was wondering if it could be considered unsportsmanlike?

Some backstory, these 2 teams are bitter rivals who really hate each other. Following 1, the head coaches had a nice heated exchange nose to nose at mid court.

[Adam]

Probably a double T for the coach to coach exchange.

[just another ref]

Originally Posted by adam

probably a double t for the coach to coach exchange.

+1

[Thumper68]

Originally Posted by just another ref

+1

Plus 2 on this one.

I also agree with JAR on the op.

#1. Get B away from the huddle.

#2. No time out. B can go there.

[JetMetFan]

Originally Posted by Adam

Probably a double T for the coach to coach exchange.

Definitely. If you ring them each up after #1, #2 - even though they can do it - probably doesn't happen.

[JugglingReferee]

Originally Posted by rekent

I know the definition of the time-out area, so I don't need that posted, but I saw something odd during a BV tourney championship tonight and am curious about opinions.

1. 60-sec timeout, A is still in huddle standing on floor at first horn, B breaks huddle at first and B players come lean in A's huddle listening to coach. A coach notices as he breaks huddle and goes ballistic but doesn't get whacked.

2. A1 fouls out, A coach is on the clock to replace and calls team over for huddle on court, once again several B players come up behind A players and stick their ears in to listen. Coach goes crazy and gets whacked this time.

In both cases, do you have anything?

1. I'm seriously considering nothing. Possible whack to Team A coach; will try to calm him down.
   
2. Nothing to Team B. Whack to Team A coach.

I can see allowing B players to locate themselves wherever they wish. It's the leaning in that I have an issue with. It's contradictory to the betterment of the game, so if I disallow it, it's on that premise.