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Old Wed Dec 26, 2012, 03:45pm
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Wanna hear something that will stun you? I was told by a senior official. I was not allowed in the locker room if is was not a game I was officiating. So do not come back into the locker room at half time of the Varsity game. Take your bag with you when you leave after your game.
If I was allowed in the locker room, they wanted me to learn from listening. A lot of times they never talked about the game they were officiating. Thus a waste of my time. Geeez
I have never seen, nor heard of, any officials being disallowed from the locker room of any game, even if they didn't work that day at that gym.
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Old Wed Dec 26, 2012, 04:02pm
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Wanna hear something that will stun you? I was told by a senior official. I was not allowed in the locker room if is was not a game I was officiating. So do not come back into the locker room at half time of the Varsity game. Take your bag with you when you leave after your game.
If I was allowed in the locker room, they wanted me to learn from listening. A lot of times they never talked about the game they were officiating. Thus a waste of my time. Geeez
That's ridiculous. I've only heard of that from D1 supervisors.

I wish we had more JV officials who were that interested in sticking around. I would welcome it at every HS game I officiated.
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Old Wed Dec 26, 2012, 04:51pm
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Do we not have any officials who are also simply fans of the game and enjoy watching? No matter what the level, I almost always stay to watch a game (or two) after mine simply for the game itself. If there is opportunity to confer with the officials of that game, that's an added perk.
After my game, I wanted to stay for at least one period of the varsity game to see how a crew of three worked and how they positioned themselves and such. I ended up staying until halftime.

My next game is a freshman game and game one of a triple-header. At present, I'm undecided on staying to watch a quarter of the JV game.
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Old Thu Dec 27, 2012, 04:17pm
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I have never seen, nor heard of, any officials being disallowed from the locker room of any game, even if they didn't work that day at that gym.
Trust me. I still have the email to prove it.
I do not see much interaction between JV officials and the Varsity officials. And if there is conversation, then it usually does not pertain to basketball. So I carefully pick and choose if I talk basketball plays/rules with officials that either follow my game or preceed my game. I also try to chat with my partners after each game. i would say about 1/2 will take part in discussion.
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Old Thu Dec 27, 2012, 04:38pm
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From an article in our most recent local board's newsletter:

The four officials at a high school game site should work together as a team. Varsity officials should arrive at the game site no later than the beginning of the second period of the junior varsity game. Junior varsity officials should stay and observe the varsity game until at least halftime of the varsity game in order to learn by watching experienced officials. Many varsity officials try to show up for the beginning of the junior varsity game, and many junior varsity officials will often stay to observe the entire varsity game. The overlap will insure that an official is available if one of the officials at the site becomes ill, or injured. The board expects veteran officials to observe and offer constructive appraisals, with specific suggestions, to less experienced officials. The board expects less experienced officials to seek out, and ask for input, from more experienced officials. Partners are expected to offer constructive appraisals to each other. "So? What did you see out there?” is an easy way to start a post-game conversation.
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Old Sat Dec 29, 2012, 02:56am
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The officials are supposed to stay and at least come in to give that information as per the Commish. If that is not the case, here is what I do for a game that starts at 7:30p, we head for the floor prior to 7:15p.

It is not their job, although it is a professional courtesy, to tell me when they are done. They may have circumstances that require them to be elsewhere. Even in the instances that the officials do come in, they typically don't know how much time was put on the clock. In most situations the clock & game management just put the minimum of 15 minutes on the clock.

Just like when game mgt says they will come get us at 3 minutes. We are supposed to be on the floor at 3, so I will ask for them to get us at 4. But it is on me/us to be on the floor at 3.

I am responsible for my actions, not the actions of others.
Agree, and I do the same. The only time it can be a problem is if things are way behind schedule and we don't know when our game will start.

If there is a game following ours, I've always made it a point to let those officials know ours is done and how much, if any time was put on the clock, although usually they haven't gotten that far by the time we're out of the court area. At least it gives them a frame of reference.
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