Throw in play
 

Team A down 2. Inbounds pass is rolled on the floor. When does 5 second count stop.

on the release

4-42-4

When does the ten second count start?

On A's legal touching of the rolled throw-in ball (provided the touching occurs in A's backcourt).

When do you call the OOB violation when they roll the ball over the endline?

No.

This would be one of the loose ends left by the change in the team control during a throw-in thing, but I believe the ten second count should not start until the ball is controlled by a player in the backcourt.

If the ball is placed on the floor and rolled, it is a violation, but a throw-in violation, not an OOB violation.

Starts when there's player control in the backcourt when a player comes from a throw-in. All rules pertaining to a 10 second count, 3 second count, and backcourt violations are adjudicated the exact same way as before team control was added to the throw-in.

What's wrong with this play?
 

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A good example of one of those totally unexpected "I can't believe he did that" plays and how easy one may be to miss, no matter how obvious it may seem afterward.

I posted this play earlier in the year. The thrower cannot be the first person to touch the ball after the throw-in is released.

I start after pc is established.

Oh yeah. The HS rule still needs rewriting for that.

Does that mean, for NCAA-M, in that the old "B deflects A1's front court pass to A2 into A's backcourt" play, that the 10-second court shouldn't start until there's player control established again by A? That's how that rule reads, to me. Just curious.

4-42-4 say the throw in count stops on the release of the throw in pass. 10 second count wont start until touched by A. Correct?