The Official Forum  

Go Back   The Official Forum > Basketball
Register FAQ Community Calendar Today's Posts Search

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Rate Thread Display Modes
  #1 (permalink)  
Old Thu Dec 13, 2012, 02:39am
We don't rent pigs
 
Join Date: Nov 2002
Posts: 7,627
Overkill

I worked with a partner tonight with whom I had almost no experience. He's no kid, but he's younger than I am, and really bubbling with a childlike enthusiasm for the job. I found him to be quite competent, obviously having more experience with 3 man than the rest of us, and the calling of the game itself went nicely. But, from the get-go, it was like he was miked and filming a documentary. When we walked on the court, he gave a tweet and announced: "Sheriff's in town," with a big grin. He then proceeded to get out his magnifying glass as he viewed the warmup.

"Tuck in that drawstring." "Get those pins out of your hair." etc.

"No, no," pointing to a headband, "You have to turn that Nike symbol over."

The girl looked at him like he had two heads. He turned to me. (I was the R)
"Are you going to allow that?" "Allow what?" (making sure that's what he was referring to....it was) I told him one logo was allowed. He assured me that on a headband it was not. I told him I wouldn't bet the farm but I thought I was right and I certainly was not going to deny it.

But the clencher was at the start of the fourth quarter. I saw him speak to both coaches, obviously relaying information. He was telling them how many timeouts they had left. After the game I asked what that was all about, and he said that it was "in the manual."

Is it? Is this an FIBA thing? I believe he said he had "international experience."
__________________
I swear, Gus, you'd argue with a possum.
It'd be easier than arguing with you, Woodrow.


Lonesome Dove
Reply With Quote
  #2 (permalink)  
Old Thu Dec 13, 2012, 04:51am
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Posts: 49
Don't think it's a FIBA thing. I think FIBA is more lenient than NFHS/NCAA when it comes to clothing/garment rules. Also I'm pretty sure there isn't any FIBA manual telling you to inform the coach of the TO's he has left. At least I've never heard of it.
__________________
Dutch basketball ref
Reply With Quote
  #3 (permalink)  
Old Thu Dec 13, 2012, 04:59am
9/11 - Never Forget
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Northern Virginia
Posts: 5,642
Send a message via Yahoo to grunewar
You just worked with, "That Guy!"
__________________
There was the person who sent ten puns to friends, with the hope that at least one of the puns would make them laugh. No pun in ten did.
Reply With Quote
  #4 (permalink)  
Old Thu Dec 13, 2012, 07:11am
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2002
Posts: 15,002
Tell him to switch to decaf.

It is nice to have an enthusiastic partner, but not one who is spastic.
Reply With Quote
  #5 (permalink)  
Old Thu Dec 13, 2012, 07:41am
Esteemed Forum Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Connecticut
Posts: 22,952
Who Was That Masked Man ???

Quote:
Originally Posted by just another ref View Post
When we walked on the court, he gave a tweet and announced: "Sheriff's in town," with a big grin.
Transfer from Texas?
__________________
"For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life." (John 3:16)

“I was in prison and you came to visit me.” (Matthew 25:36)
Reply With Quote
  #6 (permalink)  
Old Thu Dec 13, 2012, 08:05am
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Purgatory
Posts: 23
Quote:
Originally Posted by grunewar View Post
You just worked with, "That Guy!"
Nope. I had the night off.
__________________
I left my wallet in the car, can you get lunch and I'll getcha back next time? Thanks!
Reply With Quote
  #7 (permalink)  
Old Thu Dec 13, 2012, 08:54am
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2001
Posts: 1,856
Quote:
Originally Posted by just another ref View Post
He was telling them how many timeouts they had left. After the game I asked what that was all about, and he said that it was "in the manual."

Is it? Is this an FIBA thing? I believe he said he had "international experience."
Rule 2-7-11

The officials shall conduct the game in accordance with the rules. This includes:

Notifying the head coach when a team is granted its final allowable time-out.
__________________
Dan Ivey
Tri-City Sports Officials Asso. (TCSOA)
Member since 1989
Richland, WA
Reply With Quote
  #8 (permalink)  
Old Thu Dec 13, 2012, 08:57am
9/11 - Never Forget
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Northern Virginia
Posts: 5,642
Send a message via Yahoo to grunewar
Quote:
Originally Posted by RookieDude View Post
Rule 2-7-11

The officials shall conduct the game in accordance with the rules. This includes:

Notifying the head coach when a team is granted its final allowable time-out.
There's a difference between notifying the coaches "how many timeouts they have left" and notifying a coach "they don't have any remaining timeouts."

i.e - You wouldn't say, "Coach you have three timeouts remaining." But, you would say, "Coach, that was your last timeout."
__________________
There was the person who sent ten puns to friends, with the hope that at least one of the puns would make them laugh. No pun in ten did.
Reply With Quote
  #9 (permalink)  
Old Thu Dec 13, 2012, 10:11am
Archaic Power Monger
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Houston, TX
Posts: 5,983
Quote:
Originally Posted by just another ref View Post
"Get those pins out of your hair."
Well I guess at least he had one thing right but sounds like a rather unhappy experience.
__________________
Even if you’re on the right track, you’ll get run over if you just sit there. - Will Rogers
Reply With Quote
  #10 (permalink)  
Old Thu Dec 13, 2012, 10:15am
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Katy, Texas
Posts: 8,033
Quote:
Originally Posted by grunewar View Post
There's a difference between notifying the coaches "how many timeouts they have left" and notifying a coach "they don't have any remaining timeouts."

i.e - You wouldn't say, "Coach you have three timeouts remaining." But, you would say, "Coach, that was your last timeout."
I believe that is exactly what RD was trying to point out.
__________________
I was thinking of the immortal words of Socrates, who said, 'I drank what?'”

West Houston Mike
Reply With Quote
  #11 (permalink)  
Old Thu Dec 13, 2012, 11:56am
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Posts: 221
Quote:
Originally Posted by BillyMac View Post
Transfer from Texas?
I was thinking more like Nevada!
Reply With Quote
  #12 (permalink)  
Old Thu Dec 13, 2012, 11:59am
We don't rent pigs
 
Join Date: Nov 2002
Posts: 7,627
I am one of those, who, in the last minute of a close game will check with the table and tell both coaches what they have left, whether they are out or not. I believe some here say that that is too much/not necessary/ maybe even a bad idea. (if you happen to tell them wrong information, it is worse than no information at all)

But does anybody know of anything written anywhere which says to do this at the start of the 4th quarter? And as a lesser side note, if there is such a requirement, it sounded like a duty of the R, which he was not.
__________________
I swear, Gus, you'd argue with a possum.
It'd be easier than arguing with you, Woodrow.


Lonesome Dove
Reply With Quote
  #13 (permalink)  
Old Thu Dec 13, 2012, 11:59am
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Posts: 2,280
I work with a guy about once a year that is not as strict with everything as the guy in the OP, but he is extremely loud. I am all for being verbal and communicating, but he makes sure the entire gym hears everything. He also gets in a hurry a lot when reporting and just generally looks frazzled.
Reply With Quote
  #14 (permalink)  
Old Thu Dec 13, 2012, 12:08pm
Adam's Avatar
Keeper of the HAMMER
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: MST
Posts: 27,190
Quote:
Originally Posted by just another ref View Post
"Get those pins out of your hair." etc.
This is a problem?
__________________
Sprinkles are for winners.
Reply With Quote
  #15 (permalink)  
Old Thu Dec 13, 2012, 12:09pm
NFHS Official
 
Join Date: Nov 2012
Posts: 1,734
If it is a close and we have a timeout, I always check the table to make sure score is right and then notify each coach that they have x amount of timeouts left. Just a courtesy.
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
overkill stewcall Basketball 25 Thu Nov 18, 2004 03:28pm


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 08:50am.



Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.3.0 RC1