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Old Thu Dec 13, 2012, 01:41pm
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I have a hard time believing there is any assignor or supervisor who tells his officials it's expected that they check the time-outs and inform the coaches.
Agreed.

Maybe I'll do it in my next evaluated game and see if it's mentioned.
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Old Thu Dec 13, 2012, 01:50pm
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High School...3 man and 2 man. 13 years. They all said they like knowing at the end of the game. We don't have assignors.
So you contract directly with the schools? That might explain why you do it that way there.

tomegun and I might not be the most popular officials in that type of system.
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Old Thu Dec 13, 2012, 01:51pm
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I'm just saying it is something we do here, and yes I talked to 10 coaches in that time frame.
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Old Thu Dec 13, 2012, 01:53pm
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I'm just saying it is something we do here, and yes I talked to 10 coaches in that time frame.
Gotta keep your employers happy.

I might be lucky if more than 3-4 local HS coaches even know my name.
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Old Thu Dec 13, 2012, 01:55pm
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So you contract directly with the schools? That might explain why you do it that way there.

tomegun and I might not be the most popular officials in that type of system.
Yes. The schools/coaches schedule with the officials directly. Like I said in another thread, I already have my schedule for the 2013-14 season. In the Metro areas they do have assignors, but only in the OKC and Tulsa area.
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Old Thu Dec 13, 2012, 01:56pm
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I'm just saying it is something we do here, and yes I talked to 10 coaches in that time frame.
I'm sure they were glad to have you call them during their day to give you validation.
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Old Thu Dec 13, 2012, 01:59pm
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I'm sure they were glad to have you call them during their day to give you validation.
The reason I talked to them was the majority of the people here didn't do it. I was wanting to know if it was something they liked or maybe we needed to stop doing it. I am always willing to listen and take in what other officials are doing. What works here may not work were you are at, and what works were you are at may to work here.
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Old Thu Dec 13, 2012, 02:01pm
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Yes. The schools/coaches schedule with the officials directly. Like I said in another thread, I already have my schedule for the 2013-14 season. In the Metro areas they do have assignors, but only in the OKC and Tulsa area.
If I would have took up officiating 14 years earlier than I did then my career would have started out in Altus. I would probably not have lasted too long in that type of system.
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Old Thu Dec 13, 2012, 02:03pm
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The reason I talked to them was the majority of the people here didn't do it. I was wanting to know if it was something they liked or maybe we needed to stop doing it. I am always willing to listen and take in what other officials are doing. What works here may not work were you are at, and what works were you are at may to work here.
How do you get evaluations of your performance? (and please don't say from the coaches )
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How do you get evaluations of your performance? (and please don't say from the coaches )
No. The state association sends out evaluators who have a standard form with criteria. I got evaluated last week and just got my copy from the state this morning. It has five sections. Uniform and appearance, physical condition, attitude and personality, game control, and mechanics. Under each of those there are categories. For instance under game control it has Pregame, sharp whistle, sells calls when necessary, good communications-coaches, table and players, knowledge of rules and interpretations, proper positioning, and judgement. Room for comments on one side of the form. Then they rate us for each category. Superior, good, average, fair, poor.

This is sent to the state association and they send me a copy. Now the coaches are required to go online and rate officials, but they also have to put if they won or lost as well.
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Old Thu Dec 13, 2012, 02:12pm
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If I would have took up officiating 14 years earlier than I did then my career would have started out in Altus. I would probably not have lasted too long in that type of system.
I was at Altus Tuesday night. Small world.
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Old Thu Dec 13, 2012, 02:21pm
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I was at Altus Tuesday night. Small world.
I lived there from '87-89 so I witnessed Thurman Thomas and Barry Sanders play college football and OU make the NCAA title game with Lawton's own Stacy King on the team.

Best thing about those years is the Dallas Cowboys were absolutely putrid so I didn't have to deal with their fans.

Back on topic, I wish our state organization was more proactive about evaluating officials during the season.
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Old Thu Dec 13, 2012, 03:07pm
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This is a problem?
No, this, of course is legitimate. I have no problem with the blast of the whistle as we entered the court. I have read here, have I not, that some others do that as well. But nobody does it around here except this guy. As for the pins, if I see them, I tell them to take them out, but they're not something that I squint a lot looking for.
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