how many fouls is too many?

[grunewar]

Originally Posted by Rich

(42 in 16 minutes means a foul every 22.85 seconds. That's a lot of fouls.)

I don't know about other locations, but I don't believe we play 8 minute quarters at JV levels here (could be wrong though, been a while). Which, of course makes your point even more!

[rockyroad]

Quick questions for maroons...

Of those 42 fouls in the first half, how many did you call? How many did your partner call? Was it 50-50 or close to that? Or more like you called 30+ and he only had about 10 or so?

Just trying to find out a little more info on the "message" you were sending...

[Rich]

Originally Posted by grunewar

I don't know about other locations, but I don't believe we play 8 minute quarters at JV levels here (could be wrong though, been a while). Which, of course makes your point even more!

Didn't think of that -- we're about half and half. Thrills me when a school plays 7 minute quarters -- it's the only way the V game starts on time!

At 7 minute quarters, it's a foul every 20 seconds on the button.

[rockyroad]

Originally Posted by Rich

Didn't think of that -- we're about half and half. Thrills me when a school plays 7 minute quarters -- it's the only way the V game starts on time!

At 7 minute quarters, it's a foul every 20 seconds on the button.

And never forget that getting the V game started on time is all we care about.

Right?

Right???

[Rich]

Originally Posted by rockyroad

And never forget that getting the V game started on time is all we care about.

Right?

Right???

There are few people that appreciate a 7:30PM game starting at 8:02PM.

Parents? Nope.

Coaches? Nope.

Support staff? Nope.

Officials? Nope.

Radio/TV? Certainly not.

So let's stop talking about starting on time as if it's some kind of evil. It behooves everyone to stay on schedule, when possible.

I watch a lot of JV basketball and sometimes the thing that's missing is PACE. Officials don't hustle during dead balls, don't start play promptly, dawdle during substitutions and free throws. And they call 42 fouls in a half.

We're scheduled for 7:15 tip tonight. These extra-special early tips never start before the usual start time of 7:30PM. But we need to show 15 minutes earlier anyway, just in case. Sigh.

[Adam]

Honestly, that's on the schools. Schedule accordingly.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by Adam

Honestly, that's on the schools. Schedule accordingly.

Not always. If a school starts a JV game with 7 minute quarters at 5:50PM, there's no reason a V game can't start by 7:30PM. Sometimes, the officials *can* help keep things moving.

Tonight? I agree. The 7:15PM listed time is a joke. I'll find out what time the JV game was scheduled for and report back tomorrow. Wouldn't shock me if it was 5:45PM or even 6PM. You can't put any of that on the officials, especially since there's a minimum of 20 minutes between the JV and varsity games.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Rich

Not always. If a school starts a JV game with 7 minute quarters at 5:50PM, there's no reason a V game can't start by 7:30PM. Sometimes, the officials *can* help keep things moving.

Tonight? I agree. The 7:15PM listed time is a joke. I'll find out what time the JV game was scheduled for and report back tomorrow. Wouldn't shock me if it was 5:45PM or even 6PM. You can't put any of that on the officials, especially since there's a minimum of 20 minutes between the JV and varsity games.

But if history is consistent....

Last year I worked a F/JV DH, three OTs between them, plus it was senior night. 7:30 V didn't start til close to 9.

Most times, the V games start on time around here, though, and the JV games are 8 min quarters scheduled 90 minutes prior to V tip.