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Old Wed Dec 12, 2012, 04:18pm
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I called a technical foul last night, I did not need a sign to keep it from happening. The issue is not being afraid of calling a technical, the issue is does the sign that everyone loves to advocate really accomplish the goal? I have stopped a many of Ts being called just by going to a coach quietly. When I give the "stop sign" a T is fast approaching or being accused of making the issue personal. This is not about fear of anything it is does it help the game as it is widely stated?

I am just saying that is clearly up for debate.

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I don't always use a stop sign. I use it when I need to. Had a coach Monday night say he got a T in a tournament, and never got a stop sign. He said that if he had gotten one, he would have not said another word. Also said the opposing coach got 2 stops from the same official, and he never got a T.

I just know with me, if I give a coach the stop sign, the next time he offers his opinion on a call, I am giving him a T.
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Old Wed Dec 12, 2012, 04:41pm
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I don't always use a stop sign. I use it when I need to. Had a coach Monday night say he got a T in a tournament, and never got a stop sign. He said that if he had gotten one, he would have not said another word. Also said the opposing coach got 2 stops from the same official, and he never got a T.

I just know with me, if I give a coach the stop sign, the next time he offers his opinion on a call, I am giving him a T.
All I am really saying is it is not a one-size-fits-all tool. I will just put it this way, this has some other cultural, gender and sometimes racial elements to this that I have found that if used to the right or wrong person, it will blow up in your face. Because if you to the certain areas that will be seen as very disrespectful and you might have more problems then giving just one T, you might have to give more and more. I just think we have other tools in the arsenal and I like to step directly to a coach and quietly tell them something so that when the sh*t hits the fan, they cannot say I tried to show them up or make it personal. Does not mean they still cannot say those things, but the stop sign has shown to be just that in many eyes of people I have been around. Better yet, just give the darn T and we will not have to worry about what you did to exacerbate the issue as well. And if I was 6'5" and 250 of muscle, then a lot of that would go out the window because I hardly see many coaches mess with guys that big about anything.

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Old Wed Dec 12, 2012, 04:59pm
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Must be the part of the country I am in. Here, I have never seen a coach get mad at a stop sign. It is understood, coaches would rather see a stop sign, they then know to quit yapping. Don't know how many times I have just said coach that is enough, hold up the stop sign, not making a big scene, and the coach says ok, and never says another word.

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Old Wed Dec 12, 2012, 04:59pm
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... And if I was 6'5" and 250 of muscle, then a lot of that would go out the window because I hardly see many coaches mess with guys that big about anything.

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Why are you dragging me into the conversation?

Oh wait, you said all muscle....nevermind
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Old Wed Dec 12, 2012, 05:09pm
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Why are you dragging me into the conversation?

Oh wait, you said all muscle....nevermind
Based on what I have seen, I thought that described you much better. On second thought, I did say the all muscles part to not involve you in this part of the discussion.

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