Approval of Final Score

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by MD Longhorn

When you "approve the score", you approve that the BOOK has the correct score (and, I guess, for the OP ... that the game is actually over!). If the game is over since the officials have left the gym, then the team with more points in the BOOK (and not the pretty lights or what happens to be in the officials' heads) is what matters. The book, by definition, cannot "show something different" than the score approved because it IS the score that was (or should have been) approved.

Nodding at the scorekeeper or making eye contact is NOT approving the score.

When you check with the scorer as you leave the floor with the board showing 54-55, you're asking them if they have the same....when they indicate they don't have anything different, that is what you've approved.

[rockyroad]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

When you check with the scorer as you leave the floor with the board showing 54-55, you're asking them if they have the same....when they indicate they don't have anything different, that is what you've approved.

Wrong again...

The score board has nothing to do with the official score and you know it.

[MD Longhorn]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

When you check with the scorer as you leave the floor with the board showing 54-55, you're asking them if they have the same....when they indicate they don't have anything different, that is what you've approved.

You keep going back to the pretty lights.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by MD Longhorn

You keep going back to the pretty lights.

No. I'm going by the fact that the scorer has indicated that they have the same thing as the pretty lights. If they later, after the officials leave the floor, determine that they made a mistake, it can't be corrected.

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

No. I'm going by the fact that the scorer has indicated that they have the same thing as the pretty lights. If they later, after the officials leave the floor, determine that they made a mistake, it can't be corrected.

So since "it can't be corrected," what do you wish to now let stand--what the scorer told/indicated to the officials or what was actually written down in the official book by the scorer?

[Nevadaref]

Let me ask this:
At the expiration of time in the 4th quarter the scoreboard shows 59-59.
Prior to the jump ball to begin the extra period, the scorer counts up the points recorded for the 4th quarter in his book. He finds that Team A only has 58 points and that the scoreboard operator must have mistakenly posted an extra point sometime during the final quarter, and alerts the referee.

Team A had possession for the last 38 seconds of the 4th quarter and missed a try for goal at the horn.

Team A coach states that he would not have held the ball for the final 38 seconds of the quarter if he had known that his team was behind by one.

Make your ruling as the R.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

Let me ask this:
At the expiration of time in the 4th quarter the scoreboard shows 59-59.
Prior to the jump ball to begin the extra period, the scorer counts up the points recorded for the 4th quarter in his book. He finds that Team A only has 58 points and that the scoreboard operator must have mistakenly posted an extra point sometime during the final quarter, and alerts the referee.

Team A had possession for the last 38 seconds of the 4th quarter and missed a try for goal at the horn.

Team A coach states that he would not have held the ball for the final 38 seconds of the quarter if he had known that his team was behind by one.

Make your ruling as the R.

That is easy....a correction can be made up to the time the officials leave the court OR the ball becomes live to start OT. Once the ball is live, the OT is played regardless of any correction.

I don't see how that applies to this case. In this case, the scorer made an error in indicating that score was not tied...we don't go over to verify that they are recording/reading the results correctly. The officials left the floor based on the scorer's validation of the final score not being tied. Realizing later that it wasn't tied is no different than realizing they didn't record something properly.

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

That is easy....a correction can be made up to the time the officials leave the court OR the ball becomes live to start OT. Once the ball is live, the OT is played regardless of any correction.

True. So now which do YOU go with--the book or the board?

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

In this case, the scorer made an error in indicating that score was not tied...we don't go over to verify that they are recording/reading the results correctly. The officials left the floor based on the scorer's validation of the final score not being tied. Realizing later that it wasn't tied is no different than realizing they didn't record something properly.

All true again, and yet now I have presented you with the reverse situation. So again which do YOU go with--what the scorer and board said or what is written in the book?

[eyezen]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

Let me ask this:
At the expiration of time in the 4th quarter the scoreboard shows 59-59.
Prior to the jump ball to begin the extra period, the scorer counts up the points recorded for the 4th quarter in his book. He finds that Team A only has 58 points and that the scoreboard operator must have mistakenly posted an extra point sometime during the final quarter, and alerts the referee.

Team A had possession for the last 38 seconds of the 4th quarter and missed a try for goal at the horn.

Team A coach states that he would not have held the ball for the final 38 seconds of the quarter if he had known that his team was behind by one.

Make your ruling as the R.

I'd want to say "too bad so sad - fire your damn scorekeeper"