PC foul?

[Nevadaref]

A colleague of mine called my attention to this video, so what are the thoughts of those here?

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nba-ba...1473--nba.html

[APG]

Also, one of our own is working this game.

And I have a foul on the defense.

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by APG

And I have a foul on the defense.

Thanks for embedding the video.

Why do you judge that to be a foul by the defender? Please give your rationale.

What if the action were exactly the same, but we gave the ball to the other player? Would that change your opinion?

[Raymond]

Defensive player coming from behind is responsible for the contact.

[APG]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

Thanks for embedding the video.

Why do you judge that to be a foul by the defender? Please give your rationale.

What if the action were exactly the same, but we gave the ball to the other player? Would that change your opinion?

Defensive player does not have legal guarding position. Defensive player is moving toward his opponent at the time of contact. Yes the offensive player may have leaned a little bit, but IMO there would have been contact by the defensive player anyhow and the offensive player does not do anything overt in creating the contact.

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

Defensive player coming from behind is responsible for the contact.

Preface: I wish to analyze this play using NFHS rules. I don't care what the ruling is in an NBA game.

Is the defender really coming from behind or the side? Secondly, isn't that rule for players moving in the same path and direction?

Originally Posted by APG

Defensive player does not have legal guarding position. Defensive player is moving toward his opponent at the time of contact. Yes the offensive player may have leaned a little bit, but IMO there would have been contact by the defensive player anyhow and the offensive player does not do anything overt in creating the contact.

Is LGP needed for this play? We have an airborne player and an opponent. I guess that we can discuss verticality, but it doesn't appear to me that either player remained in his vertical plane.


Both of you please answer this question.

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

What if the action were exactly the same, but we gave the ball to the other player? Would that change your opinion?

[APG]

If an offensive player and defensive player are moving toward each other, then the greater responsibility for the contact is going to be on the defender. I'm not sure what your trying to ask in your hypothetical. Are you asking us to judge the play as if the shooter was in the GSW's defender position and the defender was in Love's position and their actions were the exact same?

[tjones1]

I guess I'm missing the clip. I just keep getting highlights and I don't see a crash.

Edit: If it's the one above by APG, I have a foul on the defender.