Once in lifetime I'm sure

[Referee911]

Really saw this. Varsity Girls.

Ball inbound after made basket. Full court pressure. Dribbler fires pass across court - hits rim (accidentally) and it bounces back to her, and off she went again.

Hummm -- not a legitimate try , its not her basket.....
Walking? Double dribble?

I was Center (3 man) and passed. Trail passed too.

Right call?

[JugglingReferee]

So she gave up her dribble, and then dribbled again?

[APG]

Illegal dribble

[Sco53]

double dribble, 4.15.1 SITUATION C

[billyu2]

Depends if she caught the ball and then started a new dribble.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by Sco53

double dribble, 4.15.1 SITUATION C

In the case you cite, the ball hits the backboard. In the play in this thread, then ball hits the rim. By rule, that does make a difference (I think). The end result in the play in the thread might be the same, but the timing should be (slightly) different.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by billyu2

Depends if she caught the ball and then started a new dribble.

In the OP the "dribbler fires a pass." So, by my reading, the dribble had ended. Even if she didn't catch the ball, it's still a violation to dribble again.

[jeremy341a]

Wouldn't it be a violation the moment she touches it after it hits the rim since no one else touched it?

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by jeremy341a

Wouldn't it be a violation the moment she touches it after it hits the rim since no one else touched it?

Why (assuming she hadn't moved her pivot foot)?

[jeremy341a]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

Why (assuming she hadn't moved her pivot foot)?

Won't the striking of the rim be her second dribble?

[bainsey]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

Why (assuming she hadn't moved her pivot foot)?

*A-1 dribbles, then stops. (One dribble.)
*A-1 "fires the pass", hits B's rim, and catches the ball.

By rule, two dribbles, right?

[bob jenkins]

4-4-5 A ball which touches ... the backboard is treated the same as touching the floor inbounds.

1-7 an 1-10 define backboard and basket (which includes the ring) differently.

Maybe they mean them to be the same, but it's not what it says.

Of course, since a try ends when the ball touches the floor, and the backboard is the same as the floor, ...

[letemplay]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

4-4-5 A ball which touches ... the backboard is treated the same as touching the floor inbounds.

1-7 an 1-10 define backboard and basket (which includes the ring) differently.

Maybe they mean them to be the same, but it's not what it says.

Of course, since a try ends when the ball touches the floor, and the backboard is the same as the floor, ...

Would it NOT be a try though since it is not her basket?

[MD Longhorn]

How many of this exact same conversation do we need? Bizarre.

[Sco53]

I can understand the basket and backboard being separate entities in the frontcourt, but what could be the reasoning to do that with the backcourt? I have not been able to find a reference one way or the other.