The Official Forum  

Go Back   The Official Forum > Basketball
Register FAQ Community Calendar Today's Posts Search

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Rate Thread Display Modes
  #1 (permalink)  
Old Sat Oct 13, 2012, 03:22pm
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Posts: 132
Hair

What is the ruling on things like scrunchies, hair bows, rubb
er bands, ect..
Reply With Quote
  #2 (permalink)  
Old Sat Oct 13, 2012, 03:32pm
I miss being on the floor
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Hartford, WI
Posts: 917
What kind of ruling are you looking for? Anything used to control the hair (ie to tie it back in a pony tail) doesn't need to conform to the color regulations.
Reply With Quote
  #3 (permalink)  
Old Sat Oct 13, 2012, 04:24pm
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: May 2005
Posts: 3,505
they also cannot be tied in big bows that many of the girls just seem to *love*. but Stiffler is right. There is no ruling on color and size, however best judgement is best used in that regard.
__________________
in OS I trust
Reply With Quote
  #4 (permalink)  
Old Sat Oct 13, 2012, 04:42pm
Adam's Avatar
Keeper of the HAMMER
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: MST
Posts: 27,190
Quote:
Originally Posted by deecee View Post
they also cannot be tied in big bows that many of the girls just seem to *love*. but Stiffler is right. There is no ruling on color and size, however best judgement is best used in that regard.
Is there documentation for this ?
__________________
Sprinkles are for winners.
Reply With Quote
  #5 (permalink)  
Old Sat Oct 13, 2012, 04:48pm
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: May 2005
Posts: 3,505
Quote:
Originally Posted by Adam View Post
Is there documentation for this ?
3.5.7 - bows pose a safety concern. The bigger the bow the greater the concern.
__________________
in OS I trust
Reply With Quote
  #6 (permalink)  
Old Sat Oct 13, 2012, 05:44pm
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2000
Posts: 14,616
While I agree bows are illegal, where do you see anything about bows in 3-5-7 or 3.5.7????

3-5-7
Compression shorts/tights shall be a single solid color similar to the predominant color of the pants/skirt; the length shall be above the knee. Undergarments shall not extend below the pants/skirt. See 3-6 for logo requirements.

3.5.7 SITUATION A:
Substitute A6 is beckoned and enters the court to replace A1. A6 is wearing: (a) compression shorts below the game pants which extend below the knees; (b) cut-off jeans extending below the game pants; or (c) jewelry.
RULING: The items in (a), (b) and (c) are illegal and A6 will not be allowed to ­participate while wearing the items. No penalty is involved. A6 simply cannot ­participate until the illegal items are removed.

3.5.7 SITUATION B:
A player, for religious reasons, may not wear shorts. Would he/she be able to wear tights under the basketball uniform shorts, warm-ups or a skirt instead of shorts?
RULING: NFHS basketball uniform rules do not require that the uniform pants be "shorts." However, undergarments or tights may not be worn which extend below the pants, therefore wearing tights "below the uniform shorts" would be illegal. The player could wear long pants or a skirt as the uniform "bottom" and be in compliance. (Rule 3, Section 4)

The appropriate rule is

3.5.4d & e
Wristbands and headwear shall meet the following guidelines:
d. Rubber, cloth or elastic bands may be used to control hair. Hard items, including, but not limited to, beads, barrettes and bobby pins, are prohibited.
e. Head decorations and headwear, except those specified above, are prohibited.
__________________
"...as cool as the other side of the pillow." - Stuart Scott

"You should never be proud of doing the right thing." - Dean Smith
Reply With Quote
  #7 (permalink)  
Old Sat Oct 13, 2012, 05:55pm
Esteemed Forum Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Connecticut
Posts: 23,190
I Want Long, Straight, Curly, Fuzzy, Snaggy, Shaggy, Ratty, Matty, Oily, Greasy ...

Fleecy, Shining, Gleaming, Streaming, Flaxen, Waxen, Knotted, Polka Dotted, Twisted, Beaded, Braided, Powered, Flowered And Confettied , Bangled, Tangled, Spangled And Spahettied …



Headbands and wristbands must be white, black, beige or a single solid school color, provided all team members are wearing the same color for each item for all participants. Only a single item may be worn on the head and/or on each wrist. Sweatbands must be worn below the elbow. Rubber, cloth, or elastic bands, of any color, may be used to control hair.

Parenthetically, headbands go around the head, hair control devices go around hair.
__________________
"For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life." (John 3:16)

“I was in prison and you came to visit me.” (Matthew 25:36)

Last edited by BillyMac; Sat Oct 13, 2012 at 06:29pm.
Reply With Quote
  #8 (permalink)  
Old Sat Oct 13, 2012, 06:00pm
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: May 2005
Posts: 3,505
3.5 section 7.

The referee shall not permit any team member to participate if in his/her judgement any item constitutes a safety concern, such as, but not limited to , a player's fingernails or hairstyle.
__________________
in OS I trust
Reply With Quote
  #9 (permalink)  
Old Sat Oct 13, 2012, 06:02pm
Esteemed Forum Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Connecticut
Posts: 23,190
Long As God Can Grow My Hair ...

Quote:
Originally Posted by BktBallRef View Post
While I agree bows are illegal.
I don't.

Quote:
Originally Posted by BktBallRef View Post
The appropriate rule is: 3.5.4 D & E: Headwear shall meet the following guidelines:
d. Rubber, cloth or elastic bands may be used to control hair. Hard items, including, but not limited to, beads, barrettes and bobby pins, are prohibited.
e. Head decorations and headwear, except those specified above, are prohibited.
Who says that the "cloth bands" can't be tied in a bow? What if they're tied in a knot? Is that illegal also? If they can't be tied in bows, or knots, then just how will they be attached?
__________________
"For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life." (John 3:16)

“I was in prison and you came to visit me.” (Matthew 25:36)

Last edited by BillyMac; Sat Oct 13, 2012 at 06:04pm.
Reply With Quote
  #10 (permalink)  
Old Sat Oct 13, 2012, 06:04pm
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2000
Posts: 14,616
First off, dots are case plays, dashes are rules.

Second, I quoted NFHS 3-5-7 and 3.5.7 above and neither one say that.

Third, perhaps you're refering to 3-7????

Yet, I still don't see the word "bows" used anywhere.
__________________
"...as cool as the other side of the pillow." - Stuart Scott

"You should never be proud of doing the right thing." - Dean Smith

Last edited by BktBallRef; Sat Oct 13, 2012 at 06:06pm.
Reply With Quote
  #11 (permalink)  
Old Sat Oct 13, 2012, 06:06pm
APG APG is offline
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Posts: 5,889
Quote:
Originally Posted by deecee View Post
3.5 section 7.

The referee shall not permit any team member to participate if in his/her judgement any item constitutes a safety concern, such as, but not limited to , a player's fingernails or hairstyle.
Dashes are used for rules...periods are used for casebook plays. And the rule you're trying to quote is 3-7.
__________________
Chaos isn't a pit. Chaos is a ladder. Many who try to climb it fail and never get to try again. The fall breaks them. And some, given a chance to climb, they refuse. They cling to the realm, or the gods, or love. Illusions.

Only the ladder is real. The climb is all there is.

Reply With Quote
  #12 (permalink)  
Old Sat Oct 13, 2012, 06:08pm
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2000
Posts: 14,616
Quote:
Originally Posted by BillyMac View Post
Who says that the "cloth bands" can't be tied in a bow? What if they're tied in a knot? Is that illegal also? If they can't be tied in bows, or knots, then just how will they be attached?
A band is one continuous loop. A band is not a tied ribbon.

A bow constitutes a head decoration. I'm sure your mother put them in your hair when you were smal to make you look pretty. Hence, "decoration."
__________________
"...as cool as the other side of the pillow." - Stuart Scott

"You should never be proud of doing the right thing." - Dean Smith
Reply With Quote
  #13 (permalink)  
Old Sat Oct 13, 2012, 06:08pm
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: May 2005
Posts: 3,505
yes I know. been a while.
__________________
in OS I trust
Reply With Quote
  #14 (permalink)  
Old Sat Oct 13, 2012, 06:18pm
Esteemed Forum Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Connecticut
Posts: 23,190
Give Me A Head With Hair, Long Beautiful Hair ...

Quote:
Originally Posted by BktBallRef View Post
A band is one continuous loop. A band is not a tied ribbon.
Nope. How can a non-elastic cloth band stay in one's hair without using a knot, or bow? How will the length of the non-elastic cloth band be controlled? A good example of a non-elastic cloth band is a ribbon, and a ribbon will only stay attached if it is tied in a bow, or in a knot.

band (noun):
1. a thin, flat strip of some material for binding, confining, trimming, protecting, etc.: a band on each bunch of watercress.
2. a fillet, belt, or strap: a band for the hair; a band for connecting pulleys.
4. a strip of paper or other material serving as a label: a cigar band.
5. a plain or simply styled ring, without mounted gems or the like: a thin gold band on his finger.

And you're wrong, it was my father who put the bows in my hair to make me look handsome; father, not mother; handsome, not pretty. Shows how much you know smarty pants.
__________________
"For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life." (John 3:16)

“I was in prison and you came to visit me.” (Matthew 25:36)

Last edited by BillyMac; Sat Oct 13, 2012 at 06:28pm.
Reply With Quote
  #15 (permalink)  
Old Sat Oct 13, 2012, 06:32pm
certified Hot Mom tester
 
Join Date: Aug 1999
Location: only in my own mind, such as it is
Posts: 12,918
Lightbulb

Quote:
Originally Posted by BillyMac View Post
How can a non-elastic cloth band stay in one's hair without using a knot, or bow?
Staple gun.
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
hair restraint timeout Basketball 4 Wed Nov 17, 2010 08:48am
Officials facial hair and hair style NEohioref Basketball 82 Fri Apr 02, 2010 07:44am
That hair... Juulie Downs Basketball 11 Sun May 24, 2009 07:31pm
Hair buzzaroo Football 2 Mon Oct 22, 2007 11:09pm


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 09:06am.



Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.3.0 RC1