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Old Sun Oct 14, 2012, 05:56am
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Go by a Staples, Office Depot or Office Max. Ask one of the wonderful, caring people that work there to show you the section where they keep the rubber bands. Take one out of the box, put your hand through it so that it's around your wrist. If it's not tight enough, stretch it, twist it once and again, stick your hand through the band.
Why would I ask to see rubber bands? Rubber bands have elastic properties. I've been talking about non-elastic cloth bands, as allowed by NFHS rule 3-5-4-D (Rubber, cloth, or elastic bands may be used to control hair.)

Go by a Jo-Ann Fabric and Craft, or A. C. Moore Arts and Crafts. Ask one of the wonderful, caring people that work there to show you the section where they keep the ribbons. Now pick out a pretty color ribbon. Take a length of that ribbon and put it around your wrist. Now try to make it stay on your wrist without using a glue gun, staples, or duct tape, and without tying a knot, or a bow, in the ribbon. Please be sure to let me know the the result of your little experiment.
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Old Sun Oct 14, 2012, 01:21pm
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Why would I ask to see rubber bands? Rubber bands have elastic properties. I've been talking about non-elastic cloth bands, as allowed by NFHS rule 3-5-4-D (Rubber, cloth, or elastic bands may be used to control hair.)

Rule doesn't say ribbon.

It's says a cloth band, for example, a scunchie.

A ribbon is not a cloth band. A ribbon is not a scrunchie.

A bow is not a cloth band. A bow is a head decoration.

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Old Sun Oct 14, 2012, 02:32pm
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Rule doesn't say ribbon. It's says a cloth band, for example, a scrunchy. A ribbon is not a cloth band.
Somewhat agree. A scrunchy is made of cloth, but it's also elastic. Certainly legal.

Forget the word "ribbon" for now. How will players control their hair with a non-elastic cloth band, as the rule allows, without tying it in a knot, or a bow, which is simply one type of a knot?

Now let's go back to the word "ribbon":

Ribbon (noun) 1. a woven strip or band of fine material, as silk or rayon, varying in width and finished off at the edges, used for ornament, tying, etc.

It is my contention that the word "material" in the definition can mean "cloth", thus a ribbon, made of "cloth", is legal.

Cloth (noun): Synonyms: bolt, calico, cotton, dry goods, goods, material, stuff, synthetics, textiles, tissue, twill, weave, yard goods.

Furthermore: "How to Tie Types of Knots: Whether it be tying shoes, fastening clothing or securing equipment, knots play a significant role in our daily lives; Example: Bow Knot"

Ipso facto (single chicks dig Latin), although a bow (bow knot) can certainly be decorative, it's also utilitarian, being used to knot, tie, or secure, a cloth (material) ribbon in a player's hair, which is a perfectly legal hair control device.

Now, as Nevadaref stated earlier, if a player's hair is already controlled by some other hair control device, such as an elastic band, then an additional bow on top of that would be purely decorative, and thus would be illegal equipment.

Please note that I am not denying BktBallRef's state, or local interpretation, it's just that I cannot find any national justification for his interpretation, and certainly not by any NFHS rule, casebook play, or interpretation, that I'm familiar with.
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