Airborne Rebounder Begins Dribble Before Touching Floor

[bob jenkins]

I think that's why they put the play there. Too many think either that all violations are treated as "only penalize the first" or as "double" when there are several combinations that can happen depending on the type of violations.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by tref

Still 3 outs...

Wondering would that 3rd apply in college since OOB is not involved??

How exactly is the NCAA rule worded?

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by Adam

How exactly is the NCAA rule worded?

Is that rhetorical?

[Freddy]

Originally Posted by Adam

I'd say you owe him a beverage.

I'll buy him a pitcher of daft beer.

[Camron Rust]

Fundamental point....

ALL traveling violations involve movement a foot that is in contact with the floor while the player is holding the ball.

(Noting the one exception from the case book that illegalizes an attempt to circumvent the rules).

[AKOFL]

5-12.1.c timeout not granted to a player or coach when an airborne players momentum is carring him/her out of bounds or into the backcourt. case play A.R. 155

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by Freddy

A rookie official -- and I give him hearty credit for this -- pushed back on a point that I was making last night that: A rebounder violates if he begins a dribble while still airborne.

I note nothing in 4-15 to back that up, but do have 4.44.3B which, though a different situation, seems similar: "...one foot must be considered to be the pivot and must be on the floor when the ball is released to start a dribble. The fact that no pivot foot had been established does not alter this ruling."

Am I correct that this casebook sitch also would apply to a rebounder who begins a dribble while still airborne?

Btw the NFHS issued an interpretation ruling on this play a few seasons ago stating that it was legal for a rebounder or an airborne player catching a pass to begin a dribble prior to either foot coming down and contacting the floor. If someone wishes to search for it and post it.

[SNIPERBBB]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

Btw the NFHS issued an interpretation ruling on this play a few seasons ago stating that it was legal for a rebounder or an airborne player catching a pass to begin a dribble prior to either foot coming down and contacting the floor. If someone wishes to search for it and post it.

Hmm..so we couldnt "save" a team and a really screwed up wrong basket situation where a kid rebounds an attempt at the wrong basket and the rebounder jumps, catches and "shoots" again?

Thread from 2010
help w/traveling interpretation

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by SNIPERBBB

Hmm..so we couldnt "save" a team and a really screwed up wrong basket situation where a kid rebounds an attempt at the wrong basket and the rebounder jumps, catches and "shoots" again?

Thread from 2010
help w/traveling interpretation

I don't understand the question, or what the thread you referenced has to do with the OP or the situation in your question.

But, if a team "shoots" at the wrong basket, it's not a try, is probably a dribble and all the other rules (especially travelling and ilelgal dribble) apply. If it's "really screwed up" as in both teams and the officials confused about the proper direction, then treat it as if the teams are going the proper direction until there's an opportunity to turn them around.