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JRutledge Mon Oct 08, 2012 03:02pm

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Originally Posted by tref (Post 857463)
Ok, thats a very obvious fact. To each his own & if you like it, I love it!

Personally, I just say *tweet* & toss.

Well considering I do 3 sports and there are a lot of "obvious rules" that teams and players never know are rules, not sure there is any harm or even direct correlation to players or coaches understanding rules or not understanding rules. I did not suggest that you must do this or that everyone should do this, just what I tell my jumpers. I tell the jumpers other things too as it relates to me getting between them, but next thing you will tell me I cannot do that either. ;)

Peace

tref Mon Oct 08, 2012 03:11pm

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Originally Posted by Adam (Post 857464)
I see what you did there.

Interesting. I don't see it as bad to "look high school," but I'm not trying out for the RMAC, so....

Clinicians words not mine.
I'm not trying out for the rwac either, but just because I'm working MS ball tonite doesn't mean I have to look like a MS official does it?
I think the same holds true for college officials working a HS game... They still walk, speak, look & conduct themselves as college officials even though they are working a HS game.

Adam Mon Oct 08, 2012 03:12pm

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Originally Posted by JRutledge (Post 857465)
Well considering I do 3 sports and there are a lot of "obvious rules" that teams and players never know are rules,

Like "kick, defer, receive?"

tref Mon Oct 08, 2012 03:13pm

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Originally Posted by JRutledge (Post 857465)
Well considering I do 3 sports and there are a lot of "obvious rules" that teams and players never know are rules, not sure there is any harm or even direct correlation to players or coaches understanding rules or not understanding rules. I did not suggest that you must do this or that everyone should do this, just what I tell my jumpers. I tell the jumpers other things too as it relates to me getting between them, but next thing you will tell me I cannot do that either. ;)

Peace

I only tell my daughter what she can & cannot do. I thought I said if you like it, I love it.
Do your thing!!

Adam Mon Oct 08, 2012 03:14pm

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Originally Posted by tref (Post 857467)
Clinicians words not mine.
I'm not trying out for the rwac either, but just because I'm working MS ball tonite doesn't mean I have to look like a MS official does it?
I think the same holds true for college officials working a HS game... They still walk, speak, look & conduct themselves as college officials even though they are working a HS game.

I understand the concept of looking professional.

I'm not, however, fond of using "high school" as a pejorative like your clinician did.

tref Mon Oct 08, 2012 03:15pm

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Originally Posted by Adam (Post 857468)
Like "kick, defer, receive?"

One more sir.

tref Mon Oct 08, 2012 03:19pm

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Originally Posted by Adam (Post 857470)
I understand the concept of looking professional.

I'm not, however, fond of using "high school" as a pejorative like your clinician did.

I overstand, this particular clinician knew what my aspirations were going into the camp game. He basically was saying if you want college supervisors to look at you, stop refereeing like a HS official & do what you see the staffers doing as it is what the supervisors like.

No diss on HS bball, I can't wait to get my sched!!

JRutledge Mon Oct 08, 2012 03:21pm

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Originally Posted by Adam (Post 857468)
Like "kick, defer, receive?"

Yep. Or the coach or player not realizing if they make a pick off move to first base, while stepping off the base, that they would only get two bases and not one if the ball is thrown in dead ball territory. We could do this all day.

Peace

JRutledge Mon Oct 08, 2012 03:24pm

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Originally Posted by tref (Post 857469)
I only tell my daughter what she can & cannot do. I thought I said if you like it, I love it.
Do your thing!!

You made it sound like there was no rules support. Heck it makes little difference to me if you or anyone says nothing or says the same thing.

I think we worry here too much about what others do honestly.

Peace

Adam Mon Oct 08, 2012 03:29pm

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Originally Posted by tref (Post 857471)
One more sir.

Nope.

BillyMac Mon Oct 08, 2012 04:08pm

When In Rome ???
 
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Originally Posted by tref (Post 857463)
I just say *tweet* & toss.

Wouldn't it be better if you actually sounded your whistle instead of saying "tweet"?

http://ts1.mm.bing.net/th?id=I.46714...h=144&c=7&rs=1

Adam Mon Oct 08, 2012 04:22pm

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Originally Posted by BillyMac (Post 857479)
Wouldn't it be better if you actually sounded your whistle instead of saying "tweet"?

It must be a college mechanic.

Raymond Mon Oct 08, 2012 06:06pm

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Originally Posted by Adam (Post 857468)
Like "kick, defer, receive?"

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Originally Posted by tref (Post 857471)
One more sir.

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Originally Posted by Adam (Post 857477)
Nope.

Defending a goal is not a choice?

Adam Mon Oct 08, 2012 07:03pm

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Originally Posted by BadNewsRef (Post 857495)
Defending a goal is not a choice?

It goes along with "kick."

constable Tue Oct 09, 2012 04:13am

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Originally Posted by Scratch85 (Post 857450)
Does everyone announce direction and color? It is common in my area but I am not sure why.

As the R, I confirm with captains that their team is on the floor and ready to go. Then I whistle and toss. Probably less than 2 seconds between tweet and toss. Not much time to get in trouble. As a U, I keep my mouth shut and hope nothing blows up.

Personally, I think a jump ball is a terrible way to get a great start to a game but a great way to get a terrible start to a game.


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