A Way to Look at "Travelling"

[BktBallRef]

Originally Posted by tref

You know that, I know that, BillyMac knows that, but there are some new officials out there too. Your reply could've been misinterpreted by a lesser experienced official.

The point (and not directed to you) was, don't call travels based soley on the movement of the feet when you can't see the ball.

So I should have replied to your post...

"AND it wasn't a thrower during a throw-in."

...since your reply could've been misinterpreted by a lesser experienced official, since you didn't include that a thrower can't travel during a throw-in.

[tref]

I thought we were talking live ball plays to the basket, going away from the official.

Originally Posted by tref

So many times guys call a travel based on the excess movement of the feet, with no look (backs & butts) at the status of the ball.

Apparently others did too.

Originally Posted by Lotto

My philosophy: Look at TRAVELLING as occurring when a player holding the ball moves a foot or both feet in any direction in excess of prescribed limits described in Rule 4-72 of the 2011-13 NCAA rulebook.

but ummm, okay.

[JugglingReferee]

Originally Posted by Freddy

Ran across this today. Got me to thinking. Have you heard of this before? Is this a valid perspective? Is there any merit to looking at it like this?

"Look at TRAVELLING not so much an error made by a weak athlete, as a mistake forced by a strong defense."

Seems to open up, for discussion purposes at least, a topic or two that might be worth exploring.

Anybody currently use this manner of thinking on the subject?

To answer your question, I don't deeply use this manner of thinking for this subject. However, there are actions by Team B that are keys for a possible travel.

Eg: B3 knows they are too late to intercept an outlet pass. Instead, B3 positions herself such that ball carrier A3 will be surprised when A3 turns to start dribbling upcourt. B3's defensive tactic could alert an official that B3 may have a strategic position advantage causing A3 to travel.

This is similar to B3 setting a trap just across the DL. Team A now has a short court because they can't go back past the DL.

A football analogy is if B is in poor defensive position, you might see an arm bar. If B is in great position, not only may you not see an arm bar, you might even see a touchback.

I don't believe that the bolded statement is an "end all and be all" to officiate traveling, but I do believe that smart defense can cause offensive mistakes.

[Scrapper1]

Shouldn't there be a traveling quiz posted in the near future? I think it's been missing for a couple seasons.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by Scrapper1

Shouldn't there be a traveling quiz posted in the near future? I think it's been missing for a couple seasons.

Traveling Quiz...

1. Where would you most like to go....
A. Aruba
B. Belgium
C. Croatia
D. Disneyword

2. What is your preferred mode of transportation for long trips....
A. Airplane
B. Boat
C. Car
D. Donkey

Is that what you had in mind?

[BktBallRef]

Originally Posted by Scrapper1

Shouldn't there be a traveling quiz posted in the near future? I think it's been missing for a couple seasons.

Only a travel agent would ask.

[Scrapper1]

Originally Posted by bktballref

only a travel agent would ask.

lol!!!

[BktBallRef]

Here ya go!

TRAVELING QUIZ

True OR False

1. A passport is not needed to take a cruise.

2. Real vanilla flavoring is better than imitation vanilla flavoring.

3. Shore excursions are more expensive if purchased through the cruise line.

4. Prescription drugs can be purchased over the counter in Cozumel.

5. Jamaica is absolutely the worst Carribean island cruise ship port.


This quiz courtesy of Pioneer Valley Cruise Planners.

[Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.]

Originally Posted by Freddy

Ran across this today. Got me to thinking. Have you heard of this before? Is this a valid perspective? Is there any merit to looking at it like this?

"Look at TRAVELLING not so much an error made by a weak athlete, as a mistake forced by a strong defense."

Seems to open up, for discussion purposes at least, a topic or two that might be worth exploring.

Anybody currently use this manner of thinking on the subject?

If Mark, Jr., said that this was how he was going to call traveling I would smack him up side his head.

MTD, Sr.