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Old Tue Jun 12, 2012, 10:56am
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Cool, but given how close it is - with Battier's right foot not settling until Pierce has a toe on the floor - I can see how this was called a block.
This was called a block because in the NBA, a player must get to the spot before the player starts his upward motion with the ball rather than when the player becomes airborne a la NFHS/NCAA. In the clip above, Battier is still sliding to the spot after Pierce starts his upward with the ball...too late under NBA rules...while NFHS/NCAA you still have yourself a little bit more time to get legal.
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Agreed...I was thinking charge all the way from sideline view.

Once I saw the endline view, I immediately switched to block. He never made it entirely in front of him and was still sliding sideways into his path at the time of contact.
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My motivation for requesting this video is that I had a charge, and perhaps others could see something that I didn't. I didn't see the end line view at the time.

As soon as I saw the view from the end line, I got it. Easy block. I suppose this could be an illustration of how vital angles really are.
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Old Tue Jun 12, 2012, 11:03am
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My motivation for requesting this video is that I had a charge, and perhaps others could see something that I didn't. I didn't see the end line view at the time.

As soon as I saw the view from the end line, I got it. Easy block. I suppose this could be an illustration of how vital angles really are.
Im leaning toward a block under all 3 codes as the defender never obtained LGP. It's not like he was sliding to the left to maintain anything. Close, but he was still trying to get there IMHO.
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I have a charge in the rules I am used to. I would suspect this is also a charge in the NBA based on what I know, but I am not totally sure about that.

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Old Tue Jun 12, 2012, 02:02pm
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Defender was late

When I first saw it, I thought block. In super slow-mo, I still have block, and an appreciation of what a good call it was.
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This was called a block because in the NBA, a player must get to the spot before the player starts his upward motion with the ball rather than when the player becomes airborne a la NFHS/NCAA. In the clip above, Battier is still sliding to the spot after Pierce starts his upward with the ball...too late under NBA rules...while NFHS/NCAA you still have yourself a little bit more time to get legal.
Thanks, APG. Just checked that out in the NBA rule book. I didn't realize there was that subtle difference. So I can feel better about calling a block

http://mediacentral.nba.com/media/me...-Rule-Book.pdf
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Old Tue Jun 12, 2012, 04:09pm
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Thanks, APG. Just checked that out in the NBA rule book. I didn't realize there was that subtle difference. So I can feel better about calling a block
Just out of curiousity, why wouldn't this be a block in your HS &/or NCAA games?
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Just out of curiousity, why wouldn't this be a block in your HS &/or NCAA games?
In a live/on court view it probably would be. However, the pic BillyMac posted shows Battier did obtain LGP under NFHS and NCAA codes since he had two feet on the floor and was facing Pierce before Pierce went airborne, meaning it was a PC foul under those two codes.
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In a live/on court view it probably would be. However, the pic BillyMac posted shows Battier did obtain LGP under NFHS and NCAA codes since he had two feet on the floor and was facing Pierce before Pierce went airborne, meaning it was a PC foul under those two codes.
Okay, but its tough to see that right foot sliding to gain LGP at the point of contact in a pic.
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