First AAU Follies of the Off-Season

[Scrapper1]

Originally Posted by ODog

"Oh, well I'm from Massachusetts," (so am I) "and up there, top of the backboard is out of bounds."

Being from MA, I take offense at that.

[ODog]

Originally Posted by Scrapper1

Being from MA, I take offense at that.

Yup. As did I.

I think she thought, because we were in Conn., that invoking her out-of-stateness would make me think, "Oh, there must be fundamental differences in the basic rules of basketball from state to state" and cause me to just let her consistently enforce her fantasized rules from outside her PCA.

She wasn't banking on me being from the next town over from her. The MSBOA patch (with the state outline) on my sleeve didn't tip her off that her alibi wouldn't check out. Alas geography, much like basketball, just isn't her thing.

But you'd never convince her of that. She was definitely "that girl," as one of you so eloquently (and visually) put it. Sadly, she was no Marlo Thomas.

Scrapper, if it's any consolation, she wasn't an IAABO official.

[Scrapper1]

Originally Posted by ODog

Scrapper, if it's any consolation, she wasn't an IAABO official.

It's not a consolation, but it definitely explains a little bit. Not that all IAABO officials know all the rules, but the non-IAABO officials -- in my region, anyway -- are really bad. Really. Bad.

[ODog]

I hear you. In our neck of the woods, we have two IAABO boards and a "women's" board. I'm not sure what the board's intent was when it first began, but members of this board (who are both male and female, btw) can now officiate both girls and boys high school hoops in our area. And, obviously, those of us on the IAABO boards can also officiate both genders.

So I'm not really sure what the point of the rogue board is, but it's a painfully weak lot, with a few pleasant exceptions.

Maybe someone can help me out here: One of the things they do on "their" board is have the trail stand tableside on free throws, which conflicts directly with our mechanic. I also find it incredibly ineffective because A.) they're right in position to take an earful from the coaches, and B.) they are COMPLETELY oblivious to subs (which might be the case regardless of their position).

I've asked some of the officials on their board why they do this and their answer has consistently been, "That's the NFHS mechanic."

For reasons A and B, if no others, this couldn't possibly be true, could it? Any non-IAABO officials weigh in here?

[JetMetFan]

Originally Posted by ODog

I hear you. In our neck of the woods, we have two IAABO boards and a "women's" board. I'm not sure what the board's intent was when it first began, but members of this board (who are both male and female, btw) can now officiate both girls and boys high school hoops in our area. And, obviously, those of us on the IAABO boards can also officiate both genders.

So I'm not really sure what the point of the rogue board is, but it's a painfully weak lot, with a few pleasant exceptions.

Maybe someone can help me out here: One of the things they do on "their" board is have the trail stand tableside on free throws, which conflicts directly with our mechanic. I also find it incredibly ineffective because A.) they're right in position to take an earful from the coaches, and B.) they are COMPLETELY oblivious to subs (which might be the case regardless of their position).

I've asked some of the officials on their board why they do this and their answer has consistently been, "That's the NFHS mechanic."

For reasons A and B, if no others, this couldn't possibly be true, could it? Any non-IAABO officials weigh in here?

ODog, I think I can help a little.

If you're in Western MA the women's board you're talking about appears to be borrowing from the women's board in NY. In NY you have to be certified separately to work girls' H.S. ball since they/we use modified NCAAW mechanics (you also don't have to be IAABO to be a member of the women's board). Those mechanics include the T going tableside on shooting fouls.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by JetMetFan

ODog, I think I can help a little.

If you're in Western MA the women's board you're talking about appears to be borrowing from the women's board in NY. In NY you have to be certified separately to work girls' H.S. ball since they/we use modified NCAAW mechanics (you also don't have to be IAABO to be a member of the women's board). Those mechanics include the T going tableside on shooting fouls.

I think he's talking about two-whistle mechanics, and I believe they (NFHS) did move to table-side trail on FTs. Three-whistle always has had T tableside anyway.

[ODog]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

I think he's talking about two-whistle mechanics, and I believe they (NFHS) did move to table-side trail on FTs. Three-whistle always has had T tableside anyway.

I am indeed talking about a two-whistle game. That's insane to me that any federation would want the T to stand tableside on FTs in a two-whistle setting.

Forget putting yourself in the line of fire of barking coaches. You'll get your share throughout the game regardless of where you're positioned. But having your back turned to the scorer and all of the subs is just stupid.