Miami Heat v. New York Knicks: LeBron Block Attempt and Foul

[bainsey]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

Not sure why we don't protect shooters who get their shot blocked, but we don't.

Never understood this. Where does it say that sufficient body contact is allowed if a clean hand is on the ball?

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by bainsey

Never understood this. Where does it say that sufficient body contact is allowed if a clean hand is on the ball?

Show me in the rulebook where the term, "Protect the shooter" is even listed? Just like that is a standard that many use, so is the philosophy to not call a foul on this kind of contact.

Peace

[bainsey]

Originally Posted by jrutledge

show me in the rulebook where the term, "protect the shooter" is even listed?

nfhs 10-6-1

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by bainsey

nfhs 10-6-1

Really? A player shall not hold, push, charge, trip or impede the progress of an opponent by extending arm(s), shoulder(s), hip(s) or knee(s), or by bending his/her body into other than a normal position; nor use any rough tactics.

Sorry, don't see "protecting the shooter" in there.

You said you are going to your first camp this off-season, right?

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by bainsey

nfhs 10-6-1

Well you may have to look for another reference because nothing in that rule uses the language "protect the shooter." And there is nothing in that specific reference that talks about even a shooter.

Peace

[bainsey]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

Well you may have to look for another reference because nothing in that rule uses the language "protect the shooter." And there is nothing in that specific reference that talks about even a shooter.

"Shooter" is covered by another noun in that rule.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by bainsey

"Shooter" is covered by another noun in that rule.

Sometimes just admit when you are wrong instead of trying to massage the English language to fit your interpretations.

"Protect the shooter" is an officiating term. Its commonly accepted definition is that we need to protect jump shooters from the time they go airborne, through the release, and all the way back to the floor.

It you want to give it your own definition, fine, but don't insult our reading abilities and acquired knowledge by telling us it's in NFHS Rule 10-6-1.

[bainsey]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

Sometimes just admit when you are wrong instead of trying to massage the English language to fit your interpretations.

You're jumping the gun, BNR. Besides, it's an internet forum, where the English language is the tool of the trade. Anyway, let's see if we can do this without being snide.

It's pretty simple, really. The shooter falls under "opponent" here, and you can't push an opponent (10-6-1). That's where it's in the book, black and white.

In this play, Anthony was clearly pushed by James. To JRut's point, the only reason he lands on two feet is he's forced to regain balance in mid-air by kicking up his left leg. That wouldn't have been necessary without the body contact caused by James.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

"Protect the shooter" is an officiating term. Its commonly accepted definition is that we need to protect jump shooters from the time they go airborne, through the release, and all the way back to the floor.

Foot, floor, foul.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by bainsey

"Shooter" is covered by another noun in that rule.

Interesting. Next time I will read your mind and hope that everyone follows so we can all be consistent. As no one I have ever met used that rule as a justification for the term "protect the shooter" which is mostly used as an officiating jargon to explain that we should follow the shooter to the floor and make sure they are not killed. This play in question not only did the shooter not get killed, he landed on two feet and was able to participate in the play if a foul was not called. If that is a foul on a shooter, then any contact on the shooter is illegal and that is not what any rule states, even the reference you made with 10-6-1.

Peace