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Old Tue Apr 17, 2012, 12:55am
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My understanding is those guys get stung equally for incorrect calls and incorrect no-calls.
You are right, they do get pointed out for correct and incorrect calls. But something tells me this would not be one of those calls that would be considered that overwhelmingly wrong.

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Old Tue Apr 17, 2012, 10:44am
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I honestly think that if I saw this play while officiating the game, I would think it was a variation on an "alley oop" pass and think "Wow. Nice dunk." I don't think Offensive BI would even enter my mind. Of course, I would only count it as a 2, not a 3...but that's why I'm not working those games!
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Old Tue Apr 17, 2012, 03:55pm
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He touches the ball on the downward flight and helps guide it into the basket. That's illegal at the NFHS and NCAA levels. Bentaylor will probably be along to tell us that the NBA has an exception for the momentum of a jumping player though.
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Old Tue Apr 17, 2012, 04:29pm
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This is a missed call, but the speed at which it happens makes it understandable. The officials need to be certain in order to put a whistle on this, especially late in a close game.
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Old Tue Apr 17, 2012, 05:15pm
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Here are the NBA citations relevant to this play

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Rule 11
Section I-A Player Shall Not:
a. Touch the ball or the basket ring when the ball is using the basket ring as its lower base.
EXCEPTION: If a player near his own basket has his hand legally in contact with the ball, it is not a violation if his contact with the ball continues after the ball enters the cylinder, or if, in such action, he touches the basket.
b. Touch the ball when it is above the basket ring and within the imaginary cylinder.
g. Touch any live ball from within the playing area that is on its downward flight with an opportunity to touch the basket ring. This is considered to be a "field goal attempt" or trying for a goal.
h. Touch the ball at any time with a hand which is through the basket ring.
The exception is what permits players to dunk.
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Old Tue Apr 17, 2012, 06:07pm
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NBA rules are pretty much the same for goaltending/basket interference except for a few circumstances (e.g. There can be BI on a throw-in that's touched above cylinder under NFHS rules...not so under NBA rules).

Also JMF, for completeness sake, (a) should read:

a. Touch the ball or the basket ring when the ball is using the basket ring as its lower base or hang on the rim while the ball is passing through.
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Old Tue Apr 17, 2012, 10:42pm
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from the trajectory of the ball, it looks as if Barnes does not touch the ball, just the rim. Which by rule in the NBA is NOT BI in this situation.

CC imo. but hey what do I know!
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