Unusual Throw-In Violation

[Nevadaref]

How embarrassing! Seems to be a case of tunnel vision. The covering official became so focused on looking for a touch to start the clock that he failed to observe other aspects of the play. This is what happens when people only officiate one thing at a time. There are usually multiple thing going on which need watching and the official must decide how to parse his attention to each. That is what makes officiating challenging.

[BillyMac]

One of the reasons that basketball is so difficult to officiate is because of the rapid speed of the game. Occasionally, when things really slow down, officials may have a difficult time adjusting. Over the years, I have had "lapses" where, due to a "sudden" change of pace, I can't remember if the player with the ball had selected a pivot foot, or not, or had already "used up" his dribble, or not.

[JugglingReferee]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

One of the reasons that basketball is so difficult to officiate is because of the rapid speed of the game. Occasionally, when things slow down, for odd reasons, officials may have a difficult time adjusting. Over the years, I have had "lapses" where, due to a "sudden" change of pace, I can't remember if the player with the ball had selected a pivot foot, or not, or had already "used up" his dribble, or not.

Been there.

[JetMetFan]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

How embarrassing! Seems to be a case of tunnel vision. The covering official became so focused on looking for a touch to start the clock that he failed to observe other aspects of the play. This is what happens when people only officiate one thing at a time. There are usually multiple thing going on which need watching and the official must decide how to parse his attention to each. That is what makes officiating challenging.

True, but this is also a case of "how many times is the thrower the first person to touch the ball after a throw-in when the ball has rolled more than 50 feet?"

I'm sure even their observer had to watch the DVD a time or two to figure out what went wrong on this play.

[tref]

Originally Posted by JetMetFan

True, but this is also a case of "how many times is the thrower the first person to touch the ball after a throw-in when the ball has rolled more than 50 feet?"

I'm sure even their observer had to watch the DVD a time or two to figure out what went wrong on this play.

Oh is that what happened?? I couldnt figure out what violation you guys were talking about! It was 6am & before my first cup when I watched it though.

[Jay R]

I was watching Making the Call last night on NBATV and I think Ronnie Nunn said that they only became aware of the missed call when a fan e-mailed them to ask about the play.

[Camron Rust]

Absolute violation at all levels. Yes, they missed it.

BUT....

That really isn't the kind of play the rule is trying to prevent. There was absolutely no benefit gain, the defense wasn't contesting it, etc.

The kind of play that rule is addressing is when the defense chose not to guard the thrower when the throwin is under the thrower's basket. It prevents the thrower from dropping the ball inbounds and then stepping in for an undefended layup. It might also prevent a backcourt thrower from getting the ball inbounds when the defense is pressing.

Need to be called....yes. But, a glaring miss....nah.

[tref]

Lets face it, all in all, officials at every level make mistakes. And that is okay, just dont make them gamers
When the clock hits triple zeros as long as our call/no call accuracy percentages are better than the teams FG percentage & their assist to turnover ratios... we are the best team on the court.

[JugglingReferee]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

Absolute violation at all levels. Yes, they missed it.

BUT....

That really isn't the kind of play the rule is trying to prevent. There was absolutely no benefit gain, the defense wasn't contesting it, etc.

The kind of play that rule is addressing is when the defense chose not to guard the thrower when the throwin is under the thrower's basket. It prevents the thrower from dropping the ball inbounds and then stepping in for an undefended layup. It might also prevent a backcourt thrower from getting the ball inbounds when the defense is pressing.

Need to be called....yes. But, a glaring miss....nah.

The rule exists so that officials don't have to use their judgement, and consistency in administration.

They do say call the obvious. If this play was called, I think it would have made the sports headlines.

[tref]

Perhaps ^^ that is true, but game film trumps sports headlines... wouldnt you agree?

[Toren]

Originally Posted by JugglingReferee

The rule exists so that officials don't have to use their judgement, and consistency in administration.

They do say call the obvious. If this play was called, I think it would have made the sports headlines.

I had this exact same play happen last summer, except it was 6th grade boys, and the ball didn't quite make it to half court. But it struck me as strange at first, cause there were only two players close to the ball, the defense had gone all the way back, and then I saw the kid who passed it in was the first to touch it, so I blew it.

I gotta admit, I didn't know how to do a proper mechanic on it, so I did this mechanic like an over and back and then gave a quick, coach that player inbounded the ball. He had this look on his face, like "WTF". But let's face it, nobody else was even looking.

[APG]

Originally Posted by JugglingReferee

The rule exists so that officials don't have to use their judgement, and consistency in administration.

They do say call the obvious. If this play was called, I think it would have made the sports headlines.

The sports headline would only be the point out how weird the violation was. I doubt people would be up in arms if the call was made...that's a rule all basketball fans know. You just usually don't have it happen 60 or so feet down the court.

[APG]

Originally Posted by Jay R

I was watching Making the Call last night on NBATV and I think Ronnie Nunn said that they only became aware of the missed call when a fan e-mailed them to ask about the play.

That's where I saw the play...didn't even notice the first to touch issue at first. I was definitely watching to see if the clock my have started early or not.

[Triad zebra]

If the violation would have been called. Where would the ball be put into play by the opposing team (H.S. Rules)? Base line or mid court?

[APG]

Originally Posted by Triad zebra

If the violation would have been called. Where would the ball be put into play by the opposing team (H.S. Rules)? Base line or mid court?

Where are all throw-in after a throw-in violation?