Nuggets Play

[twocentsworth]

Talking NCAA-M here: a secondary defender CAN be in/over the restricted area and make contact with the offensive player....so long as the contact is not deemed to be illegal (a block, a charge, or otherwise...).

Using the NBAs' terminology, I view this contact as being "incidental contact" or "marginal contact". I do not view it as "contact that warrants a foul". I would not have blown the whistle.

I do not have a problem with the perceived "lateness" of the whistle...The best officials will see the "start, development, and finish" of a play. That is what the Lead did here.....

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by twocentsworth

Talking NCAA-M here: a secondary defender CAN be in/over the restricted area and make contact with the offensive player....so long as the contact is not deemed to be illegal (a block, a charge, or otherwise...).

Agree.

[tref]

Originally Posted by twocentsworth

Using the NBAs' terminology, I view this contact as being "incidental contact" or "marginal contact". I do not view it as "contact that warrants a foul". I would not have blown the whistle.

Take a look at the right leg of the defender that moves the airborne shooter slightly off of his path. Subtle but effective tactic IMO... enough to warrant a whistle on the miss, but not nearly enough to award an AND1.

Originally Posted by twocentsworth

I do not have a problem with the perceived "lateness" of the whistle...The best officials will see the "start, development, and finish" of a play. That is what the Lead did here.....

I thought the L did a great job of being patient! It seems as though he called the "walk under" as you see the defender takes two steps to his right after the shooter alighted & intiates lower body contact while standing in the arc.
I guarentee you had the shot went in it would've been a play-on.

Late & right trumps quick & wrong.

[berserkBBK]

I have a no call here.
I've worked with partners that have whistles on plays like this (After a missed shot). I've asked about it and there response is they don't like giving "ticky tack and ones" or "sloppy and ones."

[bainsey]

Would 4-White meet the definition of a secondary defender? I don't see any other defender in question.

I don't have a problem with the patient whistle, but I'm not convinced there was a foul here, so I'd have nothing.