Call on the court = PC. What do you have?

[tref]

Originally Posted by Toren

This crew could have supported each other better, that L had a chance in this play to hold up a fist for a double and in the other play it's the same L, she almost signaled charge when the C called a PC.

Why should the L have a whistle here? The play isnt in the paint.
This play happens at the end of the 1st half, the other play is at the end of the game. The Ls discipline is better in this play than on the one she was going to punch.

Originally Posted by ballgame99

Its hard to tell with some college officials, but did the L even have a whistle here?

I like the PC, defender was in position for a while, and made a slight slide at the end to maintain LGP.

Its more hard to tell with some HS officials. Why should the L call across the paint when the C has the drive to the rack?
Your last sentence makes no sense... unless you meant to say "made a slight slide at the end to ATTEMPT to maintain LGP.

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

PC, again, the defender is moving back and to her right after having established LGP. This one is even more solid than the other one, as the shooter never goes airborne prior to contact.

Easy PC.

I'll add that after this PC, I would have liked to see the crew go with a PC on the other play as well.

The defenders legs are shoulder width apart when the contact occurs?

[Adam]

Originally Posted by tref

Why should the L have a whistle here? The play isnt in the paint.
This play happens at the end of the 1st half, the other play is at the end of the game. The Ls discipline is better in this play than on the one she was going to punch.



Its more hard to tell with some HS officials. Why should the L call across the paint when the C has the drive to the rack?
Your last sentence makes no sense... unless you meant to say "made a slight slide at the end to ATTEMPT to maintain LGP.



The defenders legs are shoulder width apart when the contact occurs?

No, she was still sliding; it's impossible to slide and keep your legs shoulder width apart; but sliding is specifically allowed and this contact is pretty square on the torso (not the only part that matters, but it's the defining factor here, IMO.)

And the foot that's not within her frame is her trail foot; her body caught up with her lead foot, IOW.

[tref]

Defenders are either doing the splits or they are moving to maintain LGP, cant do both & get the p/c.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by tref

Defenders are either doing the splits or they are moving to maintain LGP, cant do both & get the p/c.

I disagree that she was doing the splits. These are normal movements associated with sliding to maintain position. If having her leg extended briefly in the process negates her LGP, then you may as well remove the rule that allows the defender to be moving at the point of contact.

[tref]

Fair enough, I'm just saying that the defender wasnt legal with her legs that wide when the contact occurs. She was a step late & sliding to her right was the cause of the crash.

[BLydic]

Originally Posted by tref

Fair enough, I'm just saying that the defender wasnt legal with her legs that wide when the contact occurs. She was a step late & sliding to her right was the cause of the crash.

I see what you are saying about the width of the defender, but I don't understand how can a defender be a step late and take the brunt of the contact in the torso. It wasn't the lower level contact that knocked her down.

I'm liking the PC call made.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by BLydic

I see what you are saying about the width of the defender, but I don't understand how can a defender be a step late and take the brunt of the contact in the torso. It wasn't the lower level contact that knocked her down.

I'm liking the PC call made.

The defender was still moving into the path...she never made it fully into the shooters line and the block was more of a glancing blow. Note the directions the players fall. The shooter deflects back to the outside relative to her path and the defender falls to the inside relative to the shooter's path. That tells me the defender never made it into the path.

[ballgame99]

Originally Posted by tref

Its more hard to tell with some HS officials. Why should the L call across the paint when the C has the drive to the rack?
Your last sentence makes no sense... unless you meant to say "made a slight slide at the end to ATTEMPT to maintain LGP.

I just know around here if there is a whistle, there is a fist/hand in the air. I don't always see that with college guys.

I don't have a lot of experience in 3 man, so you answered my question, I take it this was C's call all the way.

And I'm saying she would not have maintained LGP if she had left her feet where they were and just leaned over, then it would be a clear block. I felt like she slide her feet over enough to maintain LGP.

[Toren]

Originally Posted by tref

Why should the L have a whistle here? The play isnt in the paint.

A delayed whistle to support the call. No signal, just fist up. I think it gives the call more validity.

[tref]

Totally agree... if the play were in the paint.

[Toren]

Originally Posted by tref

Totally agree... if the play were in the paint.

So what happens when the C completely chokes on his whistle and everyone in the gym thinks there should have been a call? Coach says Tref, why didn't you have a whistle?

[tref]

Originally Posted by Toren

So what happens when the C completely chokes on his whistle and everyone in the gym thinks there should have been a call? Coach says Tref, why didn't you have a whistle?

Whoa ~~ If you're going to change up the play then I'm going to need some notice. I was speaking on the play at hand.
A coach isn't going to say that because if the play happens as you describe, I will have a late whistle.

[Toren]

Originally Posted by tref

Whoa ~~ If you're going to change up the play then I'm going to need some notice. I was speaking on the play at hand.
A coach isn't going to say that because if the play happens as you describe, I will have a late whistle.

Let's say this exact same play, but no whistle from the C. I won't change it completely

[tref]

Originally Posted by Toren

Let's say this exact same play, but no whistle from the C. I won't change it completely

Ok then the L needs to apply the 3 B's & call the obvious.

[Welpe]

Contact in the torso, defender got there in time. Put me down for a PC on this one too.