Video: Not a travel in NBA, but would you call this a travel in HS or NCAA

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by IUgrad92

I'm not the one that coined the acronym NBE, but it does fit. Like many others on this board, I think NBA games are un-watchable I guess that's from the viewpoint of a basketball traditionalist.

I still have hope for the NCAA, for now. I'll be seeing a few D1 officials this summer and I'm going to seek their opinions in regards to the travel philosophy within the conferences they work, etc.

Just because everyone says something does not mean it is true. Like many things in life people stereotype things they either do not really know or pay no attention to, but base their opinions off of things they hear from multiple sources. I guess it is sad because I would think officials would do more admitting to what they do not observe than listening to the media or uneducated people. If you watch NBA games at all (and I admit to not being a big fan of the NBA at least during the regular season), you will see many traveling calls made even on the so-called stars that everyone claims those calls are ignored based on who commits the violation. There was a tape shown of Doc Rivers' son of making multiple violations in gathering the ball on this very site while he was playing for Duke. Did anyone say anything about the officials not adhering to the rules and worried about entertainment? Nope.

Peace

[just another ref]

Yes, the video is slowed down. Having noted that, how can anyone say this is not a travel. What did it look like in real time? Maybe somebody can post it. This is not a real fast moving play, I would think it still would be plenty obvious to call. The problem is, this play, and others, such as all the crap in the Austin Rivers video posted earlier, are all missed/ignored so often now that I feel guilty when I do call them.

"Mr. Ref, everybody else has let us do that all year."

Sad, but true.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by just another ref

"Mr. Ref, everybody else has let us do that all year."

Sad, but true.

I have never heard anyone say that on a traveling violation. Maybe someone standing outside the box or wearing an illegal undershirt, but never on a travel or a foul.

Peace

[just another ref]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

I have never heard anyone say that on a traveling violation. Maybe someone standing outside the box or wearing an illegal undershirt, but never on a travel or a foul.

Peace

I haven't heard the words either, but it's obvious sometimes by the looks on the faces. Last year had a big guy who would catch on the high post, put the ball on the floor, do a spin move and shoot. One of those that you could call a travel even if you sneezed in the middle of it. When he picked up the dribble he was on one side of the lane facing the basket, and he would end up on the other side of the lane, also facing the basket, with a 360 spin in between.

Smooth

Pretty

Illegal

It was obvious that he had been allowed to make that move before.

[Jesse James]

For the play in question;

In 1982, sixth graders at recess would call it on themselves, "my bad, I travelled--fifth graders' ball."

In 1992, you'd punch your striped partner at halftime for missing it, and then punch yourself for not picking it up.

In 2002, you'd run it back in slow motion for verification, remind yourself what it looked like in real time, and vow to adjust accordingly on future similar plays if you missed it

In 2012, you couldn't be certain because the players are so stout and fast, and besides, how could you ever be called upon to decide when the player actually gained possession of the ball, and then was that foot he had on the floor when he caught it really on the floor, and even if you saw they travelled in slow motion, how could you ever be expected to make that call, and besides it's a game interruptor, and besides, you don't want to call it.

Interpolating to 2022, it's not a violation until you touch the baseline--take as many steps as you need to get there.

[SamIAm]

Originally Posted by jesse james

for the play in question;

in 1982, sixth graders at recess would call it on themselves, "my bad, i travelled--fifth graders' ball."

in 1992, you'd punch your striped partner at halftime for missing it, and then punch yourself for not picking it up.

In 2002, you'd run it back in slow motion for verification, remind yourself what it looked like in real time, and vow to adjust accordingly on future similar plays if you missed it

in 2012, you couldn't be certain because the players are so stout and fast, and besides, how could you ever be called upon to decide when the player actually gained possession of the ball, and then was that foot he had on the floor when he caught it really on the floor, and even if you saw they travelled in slow motion, how could you ever be expected to make that call, and besides it's a game interruptor, and besides, you don't want to call it.

Interpolating to 2022, it's not a violation until you touch the baseline--take as many steps as you need to get there.

+ 100

[just another ref]

Better to let one go than call one that wasn't.

Better to call one that wasn't than to ignore twenty.

jmo

[APG]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

J\There was a tape shown of Doc Rivers' son of making multiple violations in gathering the ball on this very site while he was playing for Duke. Did anyone say anything about the officials not adhering to the rules and worried about entertainment? Nope.

Peace

Of course not...but replace Doc Rivers' son with Kobe Bryant or LeBron James, and then the officials aren't enforcing the rules and it's allllll entertainment!

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by AllPurposeGamer

Of course not...but replace Doc Rivers' son with Kobe Bryant or LeBron James, and then the officials aren't enforcing the rules and it's allllll entertainment!

Even with the fact that I have seen Kobe Bryant and LeBron James called for more travels in the past month than I saw in that one game with Rivers?



Peace