Two for the new guys...and even some old guys :)

[JetMetFan]

These are pretty clear cut but I wanted to put them up as teaching moments, especially for less-experienced officials.

This one shows why we should hold true to our PCA and trust our partners:





With this one, based on the criteria in 5-8-2 (NOTE) should the play have been stopped?

[SNIPERBBB]

First play is just bad all around. L should of rotated on the trap.

Second play...possible severity of the injury I have no problem stopping. Btw its 5-8-2

[JetMetFan]

Originally Posted by SNIPERBBB

Btw its 5-8-2

The first teaching moment for me would be don't type without my glasses on

[grunewar]

or end a sentence with a preposition.

of course, I'm not one to talk as many times as I have been corrected on the forum........ where is mister grammar guy anyhow?

[JRutledge]

The first play I have a PC foul or nothing. And likely nothing as no one got knocked over and the defense did their job.

The second play I guess it really depends on how much of an injury this was, but unless I see this kid bleeding, I probably would wait until the basket was attacked or stopped being attacked.

Peace

[JetMetFan]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

The first play I have a PC foul or nothing. And likely nothing as no one got knocked over and the defense did their job.

That's why the words "trust you partner" jumped to the front of my mind. It's not in the T's PCA. It's not even in his secondary. I know he didn't have a matchup in front of him but the C has to live or die with that one unless it was an absolute train wreck.

The second play I guess it really depends on how much of an injury this was, but unless I see this kid bleeding, I probably would wait until the basket was attacked or stopped being attacked.

Same. He didn't appear to be unconscious. Nothing was broken/bleeding and he wasn't in danger since the play was heading the other way.

[Adam]

I'd love the C's angle on the first play. I'm not convinced the T got it wrong, though.

[APG]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

I'd love the C's angle on the first play. I'm not convinced the T got it wrong, though.

What did the defender do wrong?

First play, that's a play on...it certainly wasn't a block IMO. As for the second play, the official had rules justification if he truly thought the player was seriously injured. I personally wouldn't have stopped play in the situation, but better safe than sorry I suppose.

[Nevadaref]

These games are being played at Georgetown Prep in Bethesda, MD, which is just outside of DC. That is IAABO Board 12 territory. I don't know if that is who is supplying the officials for the event or if the tourney has brought in other people. Anyone know?

[justacoach]

On the second play, did anyone notice the slot official tread water about 3 counts while he provided a totally unwarranted 'foul tip' mechanic?

[Camron Rust]

First play...block. The defender was sliding sideways but never made it into the shooter's path....almost, but not quite. The T got it right, even if it wasn't his call to make (he should have let the C have it or the L...and the L should have been over there).

Second play....let the initial attack complete. If they shoot it or pull it back out, blow the whistle. No need to stop it immediately as the player is in no danger of getting more injured.

[JugglingReferee]

Originally Posted by JetMetFan

These are pretty clear cut but I wanted to put them up as teaching moments, especially for less-experienced officials.

This one shows why we should hold true to our PCA and trust our partners:





With this one, based on the criteria in 5-8-2 (NOTE) should the play have been stopped?

I think the T got it wrong.

2nd clip: it's a safety thing. Stopping the game is rarely, if not never, a bad call. My call would have been to allow an immediate attack to the basket.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by JugglingReferee

I think the T got it wrong.

2nd clip: it's a safety thing. Stopping the game is rarely, if not never, a bad call. My call would have been to allow an immediate attack to the basket.

I agree it is a safety thing, but players do fake or over exaggerate there being hurt too sometimes to stop the play on the other end. I do not think that is the case here, but it happens enough this play should have continued.

Peace

[tref]

The first play, whether the call is correct or not isnt the issue, at least give the primary official a crack at it!

No blood, no bone = no stopage

Just because he blew his chance at a highlight play, we stop the potential highlight on the other end??

[JugglingReferee]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

I agree it is a safety thing, but players do fake or over exaggerate their being hurt too; sometimes to stop the play on the other end. I do not think that is the case here, but it happens enough this play should have continued.

Peace

Such things don't happen in small town Ontario.