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Old Sun Mar 25, 2012, 03:23am
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Block/Charge call with around 6:00 min left in the first half or Syracuse/Ohio State.

Boeheim was rung up. Saw one replay, disagree with the PC foul.
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Old Sun Mar 25, 2012, 03:36am
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The defender arrived late.
The defender did manage to keep his right foot outside the restricted area when stepping into his position.
I don't understand how the Lead calls this from the opposite side of the lane with the secondary defender coming from the C's side. How could the Lead possibly have the best look at this?
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I don't understand how the Lead calls this from the opposite side of the lane with the secondary defender coming from the C's side. How could the Lead possibly have the best look at this?
This has been a constant pet peeve of mine in NCAAM. A few years ago they hammered into our heads in NCAAW that as the L we shouldn't normally be primary on calls across the lane because we'll get them wrong more than 50% of the time.

Even if the L in this play managed to call it correctly I'd have to question where he'd been looking when the play started if he was able to see the defender clearly.
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This has been a constant pet peeve of mine in NCAAM. A few years ago they hammered into our heads in NCAAW that as the L we shouldn't normally be primary on calls across the lane because we'll get them wrong more than 50% of the time.

Even if the L in this play managed to call it correctly I'd have to question where he'd been looking when the play started if he was able to see the defender clearly.
Agreed.
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This has been a constant pet peeve of mine in NCAAM. A few years ago they hammered into our heads in NCAAW that as the L we shouldn't normally be primary on calls across the lane because we'll get them wrong more than 50% of the time.

Even if the L in this play managed to call it correctly I'd have to question where he'd been looking when the play started if he was able to see the defender clearly.
I could not possibly agree more. And I think 50% is a low number.
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Lead missed the earlier foul on the defender on his side of the lane which allowed him to close on the driver. LGP not there IMO. Might have been a game changer as well, since it swung the momentum.
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I understand this was a block, but it sure looks close enough to me that a coach no excuse for getting stupid on it.
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I understand this was a block, but it sure looks close enough to me that a coach no excuse for getting stupid on it.
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Basically a hair splitter, although an easy one to make - because we presumably ref the defense...in our primary - can't understand why Boeheim lost his lid over this one.
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This has been a constant pet peeve of mine in NCAAM. A few years ago they hammered into our heads in NCAAW that as the L we shouldn't normally be primary on calls across the lane because we'll get them wrong more than 50% of the time.

Even if the L in this play managed to call it correctly I'd have to question where he'd been looking when the play started if he was able to see the defender clearly.
I couldn't agree more with this. The C has a much, much better look at his side of the paint.
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I have no problem with the call. The right foot is there and he is mostly in front of the shooter. If I am going to error, it is going to be on a PC foul not a block. And if I have to slow it down to determine, then I am really happy with this call.

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The problem with the Lead making the call on this play is that he never closed down and pinched the paint. He's out of position, IMO.

And it is an RA play. B2's right heel was on the arc when A1 went airborne.
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Can you clip the block call made against Kansas in the game with UNC at 3:58 remaining of the 2nd half and post it for comparison with this charge?
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I think I know which play you are talking about Nevada. I think that should have been a PC against UNC. Ohio St. play should have been a block, regardless of RA implications.
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I don't understand how the Lead calls this from the opposite side of the lane with the secondary defender coming from the C's side.
I don't understand lots of things I see like this - regularly - in NCAAM games.
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Can you clip the block call made against Kansas in the game with UNC at 3:58 remaining of the 2nd half and post it for comparison with this charge?
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