Needed college basketball rule changes.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by tmagan

If I had to add a couple more to the list, it would be this:

• Using the shot clock for the ten second backcourt count which is more accurate than an officials count....

What if the throw-in is tipped by the defense and the offense doesn't gain player control for 2 more seconds?

[APG]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

What if the throw-in is tipped by the defense and the offense doesn't gain player control for 2 more seconds?

Well obviously, you would have to change when the backcourt count starts

[katie118]

When a team in the double bonus gets fouled in the last minute of the 2nd half or overtime, they should get 3 shots instead of 2 (for shooting fouls too). A foul is supposed to penalize a team and should not be used to a team's advantage. This will make it harder - but not impossible - for teams to come back by intentionally fouling their opponent and also eliminates the intentional foul late in the game committed by a team up by three - essentially guaranteeing a win for a team just because they intentionally broke the rules.

(note that this would not have had an effect on the KU-OSU game because Kansas had only committed enough fouls to put Ohio State in the single bonus, but that is kind of what reminded me of this)

Also, eliminate one media timeout per half (have them at the first stop under 15:00, 10:00, and 5:00) even if they added an extra commercial to each break

Eliminate the 5-second "closely guarded" violation or limit it to held ball situations only. Its always baffled me that a team "can be rewarded with possession for "actively playing defense" even when in many cases they never even touch the ball

[brainbrian]

Originally Posted by katie118

When a team in the double bonus gets fouled in the last minute of the 2nd half or overtime, they should get 3 shots instead of 2 (for shooting fouls too).

What if a team is only in the 1-and-1. Does it become 1-and-1-and-1?

Originally Posted by katie118

Eliminate the 5-second "closely guarded" violation or limit it to held ball situations only.

See NCAA-W rules.

[katie118]

Originally Posted by brainbrian

What if a team is only in the 1-and-1. Does it become 1-and-1-and-1?

I still say use 1-and-1 like it is now. as to not punish a team that hasn't committed 10 fouls yet

Originally Posted by brainbrian

See NCAA-W rules.

Thanks I never knew that. I would like to see them implement the NCAA-W rule for 5-seconds closely guarded in the men's game, but still in the frontcourt only

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by katie118

Thanks I never knew that. I would like to see them implement the NCAA-W rule for 5-seconds closely guarded in the men's game, but still in the frontcourt only

No way, all you would get is dribbling around. The defense should be credited for making the offense move or do something.

Peace

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by brainbrian

Does it become 1-and-1-and-1?

Anybody remember the NBA three to make two rule?

[silverpie]

Originally Posted by AllPurposeGamer

Well obviously, you would have to change when the backcourt count starts

That's a point I think some of the critics of the change are missing. This is not a substantive change to impose a requirement that the ball reach frontcourt by 25 on the shot clock; it is a procedural change to use the ticks of the shot clock for the 10 seconds, instead of a less reliable hand count.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by katie118

When a team in the double bonus gets fouled in the last minute of the 2nd half or overtime, they should get 3 shots instead of 2 (for shooting fouls too). A foul is supposed to penalize a team and should not be used to a team's advantage. This will make it harder - but not impossible - for teams to come back by intentionally fouling their opponent and also eliminates the intentional foul late in the game committed by a team up by three - essentially guaranteeing a win for a team just because they intentionally broke the rules. in many cases they never even touch the ball

A solution in search of a problem.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

A solution in search of a problem.

You make FT this is not much of an advantage.

Peace

[JetMetFan]

Originally Posted by katie118

This will make it harder - but not impossible - for teams to come back by intentionally fouling their opponent and also eliminates the intentional foul late in the game committed by a team up by three

Well, if a team is intentionally fouling we do have a method of dealing with that...

[Adam]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

You make FT this is not much of an advantage.

Peace

Exactly, and I've rarely seen this tactic last more than two or three fouls.

[Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

Anybody remember the NBA three to make two rule?

I do, .

MTD, Sr.

[Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.]

Originally Posted by katie118

When a team in the double bonus gets fouled in the last minute of the 2nd half or overtime, they should get 3 shots instead of 2 (for shooting fouls too). A foul is supposed to penalize a team and should not be used to a team's advantage. This will make it harder - but not impossible - for teams to come back by intentionally fouling their opponent and also eliminates the intentional foul late in the game committed by a team up by three - essentially guaranteeing a win for a team just because they intentionally broke the rules.

(note that this would not have had an effect on the KU-OSU game because Kansas had only committed enough fouls to put Ohio State in the single bonus, but that is kind of what reminded me of this)

Also, eliminate one media timeout per half (have them at the first stop under 15:00, 10:00, and 5:00) even if they added an extra commercial to each break.

Eliminate the 5-second "closely guarded" violation or limit it to held ball situations only. Its always baffled me that a team "can be rewarded with possession for "actively playing defense" even when in many cases they never even touch the ball.

Katie:

Since 1+1 Bonus Free Throws are shot for Common Fouls which are the 7th, 8th, and 9th Team Fouls of the half, and 2 Free Throws are shot for CFs starting with the 10th TF of the half. About ten years or so ago, I floated the following idea: Keep the 1+1 Bonus as is; shoot 2 FTs for CFs which are the 10th, 11th, and 12th TFs in the half; and then shoot 3 FTs for CFs starting with the 13th TF of the half.


I like this idea.


NCAA Women's Closely Guarded Rule is only while holding the ball in both the Backcourt and the Front Court; this is a holdover from the NAGWS Rules which was taken from the FIBA Rules which is still the same even though FIBA has adopted a Backcourt Violation Rule now. I would like to see the NFHS and NCAA Men's Committees adopt the NCAA Women's Rule but only in the Front Court.

MTD, Sr.

[Texas Aggie]

A solution in search of a problem.

You're joking, right? You really think taking 10+ minutes to play the last 2 clock minutes in almost EVERY game is how basketball should be played?

Saving time outs is one thing; endless free throw shooting is ridiculous. That doesn't even speak to the idiotic idea that a team can gain an advantage by consistent intentional rules infractions. Name one other sport that allows that?