State Tourney

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by RichMSN

Some of these mistakes they *shouldn't* make, though.

True, but they are human. And there is a lot of pressure at those games and at the high school level there is not a lot of preparation for those events. Mistakes are going to happen. The key is to limit them.

Peace

[Rich]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

True, but they are human. And there is a lot of pressure at those games and at the high school level there is not a lot of preparation for those events. Mistakes are going to happen. The key is to limit them.

Peace

My point on the intentional foul is that it requires *three* officials to screw that up. I'm not talking judgment, here.

I know that if I'm working the game, I'm coming in and making sure this is done right. I've called 2 INT fouls on made baskets in the last 5 years (one of the players is now playing at Tennessee and had a heckuva game yesterday against Vandy) and while the opposing coach was left scratching his head, I know I got the call correct.

3 officials getting this wrong is really inexcusable.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by RichMSN

3 officials getting this wrong is really inexcusable.

Totally agree. But the pressure of the situation makes a lot of people less effective. That mistake is certainly bigger than other mistakes, but just saying they will and are going to happen no matter how they are picked to work those games.

Peace

[tref]

Originally Posted by RichMSN

My point on the intentional foul is that it requires *three* officials to screw that up. I'm not talking judgment, here.

I know that if I'm working the game, I'm coming in and making sure this is done right. I've called 2 INT fouls on made baskets in the last 5 years (one of the players is now playing at Tennessee and had a heckuva game yesterday against Vandy) and while the opposing coach was left scratching his head, I know I got the call correct.

3 officials getting this wrong is really inexcusable.

Had the same situation on a game Saturday, kid scores on a fastbreak & gets shoved in the back. I call the INT foul from C & tell the L (R) what we have... the T comes in & says we should be shooting 1 because the basket went

As JRut stated the pressure is increased this time of year & I agree. But pressure bursts pipes, rise to the occasion.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by tref

Had the same situation on a game Saturday, kid scores on a fastbreak & gets shoved in the back. I call the INT foul from C & tell the L (R) what we have... the T comes in & says we should be shooting 1 because the basket went

As JRut stated the pressure is increased this time of year & I agree. But pressure bursts pipes, rise to the occasion.

To me, there are just some mistakes you shouldn't be making at this time of the year. And not properly giving 2 free throws on an Intentional Foul is definitely one of them. There is just no way that all 3 members of a post-season crew can have the same brain fart.

[tref]

^^ I agree but it all depends on how one got there. Did we work hard & earn it or are we boys with the decision makers

[Adam]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

To me, there are just some mistakes you shouldn't be making at this time of the year. And not properly giving 2 free throws on an Intentional Foul is definitely one of them. There is just no way that all 3 members of a post-season crew can have the same brain fart.

That's what bugs me, too. I can understand mistakes, errors in judgment, missed calls, etc. I can understand fixing an error that isn't correctable. I can understand waving off a shooting foul. I can even understand the violation called on the jump ball when the jumper catches it after it bounces.

I have a harder time when basic rules are screwed up. Assigning a six-player T to the coach. Calling a travel on a caught air ball. Not giving the right number of FTs.

[JeroenB]

I didn't read through the entire conversation, but did I get it correct that under US rules (college/HS) the number of freethrows awarded for an intentional foul is always two?

[Rich]

Originally Posted by JeroenB

I didn't read through the entire conversation, but did I get it correct that under US rules (college/HS) the number of freethrows awarded for an intentional foul is always two?

Unless it's on a 3-point attempt, then it's 3.