End of Game - State Tourney

[SCalScoreKeeper]

Wow-I just saw the video of the trail's initial wave off on the play I posted about.The trail comes in with a clear and confident wave off and just allows herself to be talked into a count it call.Here's a clip of video with her wave off-http://www.ocvarsity.com/video/?videoId=1481976578001&play=now

[bainsey]

This mostly speaks about my area, but I was a little taken aback with the post-game interview of a high school kid from the losing side. No TV station in this neck of the woods would touch that. Newspapers? Sure. TV? Nope.

[tw1ns]

Originally Posted by bainsey

This mostly speaks about my area, but I was a little taken aback with the post-game interview of a high school kid from the losing side. No TV station in this neck of the woods would touch that. Newspapers? Sure. TV? Nope.

Are you talking about the girls game in the initial video, before my thread got taken over? With the girl crying and blaming herself?

[JRutledge]

OP Comment: I think the first play was not a travel as players were going after the ball. If anything she did not have control of the ball.

The last play was a travel. The first hop step was OK, but then she hopped again and that was a travel.

CIF Last Second shot: Surprised this was missed. This is why we need a last second shot on all TV games at that level. Too much at stake IMO. The lead should not be giving information on this play in my opinion.

Peace

[ballgame99]

In the second play, what should the T do if they KNOW the bucket should not count? Can the T overule both of the other officials? The T obviously didn't feel that strongly about her waive off if she let them talk her out of it.

And if I'm white's coach, I'm having a discussion with the girl that looks like she tries to take a charge on the half court shot. What are you doing? Same with the girl that reaches in in the backcourt.

And on the OP, no travel on white, but black stole the ball anyway; and then a travel on black on the first step. Probably a no call on her jump stop at the basket.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by ballgame99

In the second play, what should the T do if they KNOW the bucket should not count? Can the T overule both of the other officials? The T obviously didn't feel that strongly about her waive off if she let them talk her out of it.

And if I'm white's coach, I'm having a discussion with the girl that looks like she tries to take a charge on the half court shot. What are you doing? Same with the girl that reaches in in the backcourt.

If the officials disagree, it's up to the R to decide.

[ballgame99]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

If the officials disagree, it's up to the R to decide.

So if the T isn't the R, it would be up to the T to state their case persuasively enough to have the R back them then. Good to know.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

If the officials disagree, it's up to the R to decide.

I disagree with this. This is the T's call all the way. No R has the right to overrule a last second shot, in my opinion.

[fullor30]

Originally Posted by ballgame99

In the second play, what should the T do if they KNOW the bucket should not count? Can the T overule both of the other officials? The T obviously didn't feel that strongly about her waive off if she let them talk her out of it.

And if I'm white's coach, I'm having a discussion with the girl that looks like she tries to take a charge on the half court shot. What are you doing? Same with the girl that reaches in in the backcourt.

And on the OP, no travel on white, but black stole the ball anyway; and then a travel on black on the first step. Probably a no call on her jump stop at the basket.

Disagree with all of your points

[jump stop]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

OP Comment: I think the first play was not a travel as players were going after the ball. If anything she did not have control of the ball. Agree

The last play was a travel. The first hop step was OK, but then she hopped again and that was a travel. Where was the 2nd hop? you talking about the hop to jump up and shoot. Perfect jump stop to finish play. She did pick up pivot foot before the start of dribble (that is the travel in this play)

CIF Last Second shot: Surprised this was missed. This is why we need a last second shot on all TV games at that level. Too much at stake IMO. The lead should not be giving information on this play in my opinion.

Peace

My interpretation,

[bainsey]

Originally Posted by tw1ns

Are you talking about the girls game in the initial video, before my thread got taken over? With the girl crying and blaming herself?

That's the one. It appears that that tournament has actual press conferences. We certainly do that around here for colleges, but not for high schools.

As a result, I admittedly got a little uneasy about watching that aforementioned girl. I think that stage is too big for kids dealing with big losses like that. Here, we just televise the winners' post-game.

[tw1ns]

Originally Posted by bainsey

That's the one. It appears that that tournament has actual press conferences. We certainly do that around here for colleges, but not for high schools.

As a result, I admittedly got a little uneasy about watching that aforementioned girl. I think that stage is too big for kids dealing with big losses like that. Here, we just televise the winners' post-game.

Local team....as in the TV station is in Mason City, losing team. Been interviewing them all year. No worries....she is a Junior, committed to Iowa State, and have 3 returning starters and a nice bench. Should get back to State next year.

[fullor30]

Originally Posted by bainsey

That's the one. It appears that that tournament has actual press conferences. We certainly do that around here for colleges, but not for high schools.

As a result, I admittedly got a little uneasy about watching that aforementioned girl. I think that stage is too big for kids dealing with big losses like that. Here, we just televise the winners' post-game.

Agreed, a few schools around here don't allow players to be even quoted.

I thought both girls did a terrific job in front of camera

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by fullor30

I thought both girls did a terrific job in front of camera

Agree. Schools, coaches, and parents, of both girls should be very proud. Sports are fun, but there have to be winners, and losers. Both of these girls were winners on the big stage.

[truerookie]

Originally Posted by SCalScoreKeeper

Wow-I just saw the video of the trail's initial wave off on the play I posted about.The trail comes in with a clear and confident wave off and just allows herself to be talked into a count it call.Here's a clip of video with her wave off-http://www.ocvarsity.com/video/?videoId=1481976578001&play=now

This is why this situation upsets me....