shoe laces

[Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.]

Originally Posted by phansen

NFHS

A1 has the ball in the backcourt and is slowly advancing to the frontcourt. As A1 crosses the division line, I notice B2 kneeling down to tie a shoe near A's basket. As trail I blow my whistle, let B2 tie the shoe and have team A inbound the ball near the division line. Partner says I should not have stopped play. Is he right? Rules reference always appreciated?

Phansen:

You will not find a rule reference but your partner was correct.

Prior to the 1963-64 season, National Basketball Committee of the United States and Canada (NBCUSC) Rules (note: The NBCUSC was the basketball rules writing body for boys'/girls' high school and men's college prior to being split into the NFHS and NCAA Men's Rules Committees in the late 1970's.) allowed game officials to stop the game or to prevent a Dead Ball (DB) from becoming a Live Ball (LB) so that a player could tie his/her shoe. Starting with the 1963-64 season this provision was intentionally deleted from Rule 2. The Rules Committee, in an editorial comment, stated that the provision was deleted because the Committee did not want officials to stop the game or delay a DB from becoming LB so that a player could tie his/her shoe. The effect of this rule change is that officials by rule cannot stop the game or delay a DB from becoming LB so that a player can tie his/her shoe.

If one goes to the current NFHS Basketball Handbook and go to the chapter on the history of the rules changes, one will see the change listed in 1964. This rules change is still valid for both NFHS and NCAA Men's/Women's Rules.

MTD, Sr.

[Rich]

You'll notice that the rule for stopping play includes eyeglasses or lenses. If they wanted us to stop games for tying shoes, it would be written in the rules -- it's not an uncommon occurrence.

I had a partner stop a varsity game earlier this season and when he asked for feedback, I made sure I included that.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by RichMSN

You'll notice that the rule for stopping play includes eyeglasses or lenses. If they wanted us to stop games for tying shoes, it would be written in the rules -- it's not an uncommon occurrence.

I had a partner stop a varsity game earlier this season and when he asked for feedback, I made sure I included that.

Had a partner stop a game last week for a hung net. He asked for feedback, and I forgot to mention it.

[McMac]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

Had a partner stop a game last week for a hung net. He asked for feedback, and I forgot to mention it.

Wait, are you saying we don't stop the game for a hung net? I have always been taught to stop the game and fix it. Was this ever a rule to stop the game? Where does this rational come from?

(Sorry if this becomes a thread hijack.)

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by McMac

Wait, are you saying we don't stop the game for a hung net? I have always been taught to stop the game and fix it. Was this ever a rule to stop the game? Where does this rational come from?

(Sorry if this becomes a thread hijack.)

You may do it the first time it happens. You might even do it the second time it happens. But if you keep doing that, then it is not your issue. BTW, the NF gave an interpretation about this a few years ago and said that you should not spend the entire game fixing the net no more than you should stop play to get a shoe tied.

Peace

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

You may do it the first time it happens. You might even do it the second time it happens. But if you keep doing that, then it is not your issue. The NF gave an interpretation about this a few years ago and said that you should not spend the entire game fixing the net.

Agree. C'mon Nevadaref. Now go do that voodoo that you do so well.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by McMac

Wait, are you saying we don't stop the game for a hung net? I have always been taught to stop the game and fix it. Was this ever a rule to stop the game? Where does this rational come from?

(Sorry if this becomes a thread hijack.)

I do....the net is not in its required position, according to rule 1-10-1, if it is hung up on the rim. And everyone I've ever worked with around here does the same.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

I do....the net is not in its required position, according to rule 1-10-1, if it is hung up on the rim. And everyone I've ever worked with around here does the same.

I could be off base, but I wait for the next legit whistle.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

I could be off base, but I wait for the next legit whistle.

I don't think it is fair for a team to have to shoot into a basket where the net might be obstructing the entrance to the basket.