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A1 has the ball in the backcourt and is slowly advancing to the frontcourt. As A1 crosses the division line, I notice B2 kneeling down to tie a shoe near A's basket. As trail I blow my whistle, let B2 tie the shoe and have team A inbound the ball near the division line. Partner says I should not have stopped play. Is he right? Rules reference always appreciated?
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Old Mon Feb 27, 2012, 04:03pm
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You won't find a rules reference.
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No you will not find a rules reference and your partner was right.

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Old Mon Feb 27, 2012, 04:07pm
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A1 has the ball in the backcourt and is slowly advancing to the frontcourt. As A1 crosses the division line, I notice B2 kneeling down to tie a shoe near A's basket. As trail I blow my whistle, let B2 tie the shoe and have team A inbound the ball near the division line. Partner says I should not have stopped play. Is he right? Rules reference always appreciated?
A lot of people will tell you that your partner is correct. I've always had the opinion, though, that if the game can be stopped at a point where nothing is happening (A1 slowly walking the ball up the floor or standing and dribbling in the frontcourt), stop the game and prevent any injury.

But if Team A is into their offense, I wouldn't stop play. Use your best judgement about this. It's why we get paid mucho dinero.
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Old Mon Feb 27, 2012, 04:08pm
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In ms, I'll delay a throw in. But I won't stop play. In high school, they need to know how to tie a knot.

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What do you do with the player that does not tie his shoes and stuffs the laces in the shoe and one of the shoes comes off every other trip down the floor.
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Old Mon Feb 27, 2012, 04:16pm
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What do you do with the player that does not tie his shoes and stuffs the laces in the shoe and one of the shoes comes off every other trip down the floor.
I'd tell him to tie his shoes or get off the floor.
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What do you do with the player that does not tie his shoes and stuffs the laces in the shoe and one of the shoes comes off every other trip down the floor.
Nothing...he can either ask for a timeout or hold his team up while he puts his shoe back on. If play is stopped for some other reason, and the shoe is off/shoelaces untied, that would be the only time I would hold up play.
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What do you do with the player that does not tie his shoes and stuffs the laces in the shoe and one of the shoes comes off every other trip down the floor.
Ignore it, let him get beat. I'm not his coach.
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What do you do with the player that does not tie his shoes and stuffs the laces in the shoe and one of the shoes comes off every other trip down the floor.
When they cannot participate in the game because they are fumbling with their shoe, I would think a coach will take them out of the game or they will learn to tie a knot.

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In ms, I'll delay a throw in. But I won't stop play. In high school, they need to know how to tie a knot.
There it is.

Twice, I've been asked by a coach to stop play for an untied shoe. Both found it ridiculous that I wouldn't.

I can only deduce from this that others around me are doing so. I just don't agree. Tie your shoes, or play at your own risk.

I find it interesting that we require substitutions for untucked shirts (something we don't enforce for off-season games not assigned by our board), then perhaps we should also consider it for untied shoes.
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There it is.

Twice, I've been asked by a coach to stop play for an untied shoe. Both found it ridiculous that I wouldn't.

I can only deduce from this that others around me are doing so. I just don't agree. Tie your shoes, or play at your own risk.

I find it interesting that we require substitutions for untucked shirts (something we don't enforce for off-season games not assigned by our board), then perhaps we should also consider it for untied shoes.
I can tell you I'd do that before I stop the game. This one polices itself, though, once you refuse to stop the game.
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There it is.

Twice, I've been asked by a coach to stop play for an untied shoe. Both found it ridiculous that I wouldn't.
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I had a JV Coach ask me to stop play for his kid's untied shoe...guy actually said "Hey, we need a ref's timeout for him to tie his shoe!"

Blew the whistle, and then asked him if he wanted a full or 30.

Kid's shoe was not a problem the rest of that game.
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