Against the rules or not?

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by agr8zebra

The Thrower-in, he/she must come directly onto the court. Rule 10.3.2 states such act is a Technical

Suggested rule change: Should be a violation. It's a violation to step off the court. It should be a violation, not a technical foul, to stay off the court.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by stiffler3492

I've never heard a coach direct his team to use the entire floor during warmups when the other team is elsewhere.

The kids don't know the rules. Warn first.

Very common (meaning I'd see it in the Chicago area 8 - 10 times a season)up until, well, this year.

[dsqrddgd909]

Originally Posted by BEAREF

2011-2012 POE
Pregame Situations. Teams entering the gymnasium prior to the contest should not run through the area occupied by the opposing team or under the basket where opponents are warming up.
Teams should only enter, jog or warm-up on their own half of the court. Gatherings intended to motivate a team after the warm-up period, during or following player introductions and post-game celebrations should be performed in the area directly in front of the team bench. If during the pregame or half-time warm-up period one team leaves the floor, the other team should not use the entire court; teams should only warm-up on their half of the court."


This is PERMITTED in Minnesota.

That's interesting. Other MN rules:


Minnesota Rule Modifications for Basketball
(Updated December 1, 2011)

A) All varsity basketball games will be played as two eighteen (18) minute halves. Three full time outs and two thirty second time outs per game.

B) In Minnesota home wears dark uniform and visitors wear white uniforms.

C) Games below the varsity level must also be played in halves with a maximum time of sixteen (16) minutes.

D) A 35-second shot clock may be used in non-conference games if both schools agree and teams and officials are notified at least one week prior to the game. Coaches and officials must file a report with the League office after any game that uses a shot clock. The form can be found on the League website.

E) Minnesota does allow teams do use the entire court for warm-up when the other team leaves the floor.

F) Mercy Rule: When the point differential reaches 35 points or more, with less than nine minutes to play, the clock will go to running time. The clock will only be stopped for time-outs (team or official). Regular timing rules will be used if the point differential drops back to less than 30 points.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by dsqrddgd909

Home wears dark uniform and visitors wear white uniforms.

This is the Connecticut prep school rule. It screws me up every time. Bonus on the scoreboard? Score on the scoreboard? Home coach? Visitor coach? I've got a prep school game coming up on Saturday and I'm freaking out already, just thinking about it.

[Amesman]

Originally Posted by dsqrddgd909

E) Minnesota does allow teams do use the entire court for warm-up when the other team leaves the floor.

Common-sense tactic to truly keep warm up there?

[Freddy]

Originally Posted by dsqrddgd909

That's interesting. Other MN rules:
Minnesota Rule Modifications for Basketball
(Updated December 1, 2011)

Isn't that the same state that elected a washed-up professional wrestler as governor?

(I shouldn't laugh...was living there when they did)

[justacoach]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

Suggested rule change: Should be a violation. It's a violation to step off the court. It should be a violation, not a technical foul, to stay off the court.

Billy, I would strongly object to this being downgraded to just a violation. I have relied on this call to be my ace-in-the-hole when engaged in a 'Referee's Liar's Poker' competition. You know, where the most outrageous call of the game wins an adult beverage. Very useful in keeping your interest up in a blow-out...

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by justacoach

I have relied on this call to be my ace-in-the-hole when engaged in a 'Referee's Liar's Poker' competition. You know, where the most outrageous call of the game wins an adult beverage. Very useful in keeping your interest up in a blow-out...

Last weekend I had a partner, a forty-five year veteran official, call a swinging-the-elbows violation. After the game, I asked him, "What did you do, pull that one out of your *ss?"

[BktBallRef]

Originally Posted by dsqrddgd909

2011-2012 POE
Pregame Situations. Teams entering the gymnasium prior to the contest should not run through the area occupied by the opposing team or under the basket where opponents are warming up.
Teams should only enter, jog or warm-up on their own half of the court. Gatherings intended to motivate a team after the warm-up period, during or following player introductions and post-game celebrations should be performed in the area directly in front of the team bench. If during the pregame or half-time warm-up period one team leaves the floor, the other team should not use the entire court; teams should only warm-up on their half of the court.


10-3-2

Purposely and/or deceitfully delay returning after legally being out of bounds.

10.3.2 SITUATION A:

A1 has the ball out of bounds for a throw-in. A1 completes the throw-in to A2 and then purposefully delays his/her return by taking four or five steps along the end line prior to coming inbounds behind a screen set by A3 and A4. A1 gets a return pass from A2 and takes an unchallenged try for goal.

RULING: A1 is charged with a technical foul for purposefully delaying his/her return to the court following the throw-in. A1's movement out of bounds along the end line was to take advantage of the screen and return to the court in a more advantageous position.

This should have been the last post in the thread.

Originally Posted by stiffler3492

I've never heard a coach direct his team to use the entire floor during warmups when the other team is elsewhere.

The kids don't know the rules. Warn first.

I have no problem with a warning. But to say that coaches don't direct their teams to do these types of things is crap. Just because you don't hear it doesn't mean it doesn't happen.

[justacoach]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

Last weekend I had a partner, a forty-five year veteran official, call a swinging-the-elbows violation. After the game, I asked him, "What did you do, pull that one out of your *ss?"

I'll see your swinging-the-elbows violation and raise you simultaneous BI and GT!!! Game on.....

[Loudwhistle2]

Originally Posted by justacoach

I'll see your swinging-the-elbows violation and raise you simultaneous BI and GT!!! Game on.....

I'll raise you "three seconds and two untucked jerseys!"

[justacoach]

Originally Posted by Loudwhistle2

I'll raise you "three seconds and two untucked jerseys!"

Weak

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Loudwhistle2

I'll raise you "three seconds and two untucked jerseys!"

Typical JV game....

[Adam]

Originally Posted by justacoach

I'll see your swinging-the-elbows violation and raise you simultaneous BI and GT!!! Game on.....

Punching the ball, flopping T, face guarding, and 10 second violation.....on a FT shooter.

[bainsey]

Read 'em and weep...four Ts... elbow locking, player lifting, a team with numbers 0 and 00, and taunting after the fourth quarter horn.