The Official Forum  

Go Back   The Official Forum > Basketball
Register FAQ Community Calendar Today's Posts Search

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Rate Thread Display Modes
  #1 (permalink)  
Old Tue Feb 14, 2012, 12:03pm
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: WA
Posts: 259
Quote:
Originally Posted by just another ref View Post
Now you can quote the rest of 4.19.3, the part that defines an intentional foul as "away from the ball."
My opinion is that this is over ruled by the comment as it relates to end of game situations where a team is fouling to stop the clock - mostly because it states as much in the case book. While the rule book tells us what to call, the case book tells us how to call.

This would be just like any other good off ball call at an earlier time in the game. The fact that they let you know they are targeting a poor free throw shooter by number means nothing. They would target him/her anyway. The fact that they are letting you know ahead of time should have no bearing on the call.

If however the foul itself rises to the standard of an intentional foul as described in rule 4-19-3 (other than just to stop the clock) then yes I have an intentional foul.

Are you going intentional on all off ball fouls prior to the last couple minutes of the game?
Reply With Quote
  #2 (permalink)  
Old Tue Feb 14, 2012, 12:10pm
Adam's Avatar
Keeper of the HAMMER
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: MST
Posts: 27,190
Quote:
Originally Posted by just another ref View Post
The expectation of an intentional is not due to the strategy, but rather the specifics. The fact that he named the player in advance that they intended to foul indicates that this player is not a very good player. Without even being there, one would expect after hearing this story that it was unlikely that this player would be handling the ball. Snaqwells was there, and he already confirmed this fact for us. Now you can quote the rest of 4.19.3, the part that defines an intentional foul as "away from the ball."
Exactly. 4.19.3.C is the relevant case play, and I should have told the coach that fouling a player off ball in this situation has a lower threshold for intentional. (4-19-3b and 4-19-3c)

In the end, it didn't matter. #55 broke for a long pass and never stopped running. Green defender never caught up and wasn't even able to make contact. White got a layup with about 20 seconds left.
__________________
Sprinkles are for winners.
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 08:56pm.



Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.3.0 RC1