What do you got?

[Adam]

Looks to me, after finally watching the entire video (rather than just the first part), that they did talk to the table. What did the table say?

[Toren]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

Looks to me, after finally watching the entire video (rather than just the first part), that they did talk to the table. What did the table say?

Table said "No basket"...after watching the video, makes me think they were completely bias.

[tref]

Originally Posted by Toren

Table said "No basket"...after watching the video, makes me think they were completely bias.

Did you have representation from both teams at the table?

[Toren]

Originally Posted by tref

Did you have representation from both teams at the table?

There was representation from both teams, but I didn't have the conversation with the table. My R had the conversation.

As many of you probably assumed or figured out, I'm the L in this video.

I suspected the ball went in from the reaction of the crowd, the sound of the net, the movement of the net. But I couldn't be positive because my "focus" was on the big man.

When my C and T started running the other way as if the ball had not entered the basket, I figured they had a much better view and I trusted that the ball had not gone in.

The coach asked me if we were going to count that as a "3". He did not ask me if he ball went in. I told him "Give us one sec coach, I had a blocked view coach, but we will figure it out." whistle, foul, we start to talk.

I approach the C and he says to me, "I don't know if it went in." I say, okay let me check with the (old) T.

The T says to me, "I think it went in." I say okay, you're the only one who thinks anything, so let's go with that. He went to the scorer's table to count the basket and that's when the C started his whole display about how the ball didn't go in.

At this point, I'm on the sideline thinking "My partner just left us no recourse." He waived off the basket that he wasn't sure went in or didn't.

It was frustrating.

[Welpe]

Originally Posted by Toren

It was frustrating.

I can imagine.

I'm OK with what you did here based upon what you knew at the time. Did the C "Big Time" you guys a bit? I noticed he is wearing college stripes while you two are not. I still would like to know what he saw as a foul also.

[Toren]

Originally Posted by Welpe

I can imagine.

I'm OK with what you did here based upon what you knew at the time. Did the C "Big Time" you guys a bit? I noticed he is wearing college stripes while you two are not. I still would like to know what he saw as a foul also.

First half he did. And he was ruining the game. Second half, I took control and he shrunk. It was a great learning experience.

[Welpe]

Good for you and good for you on putting this out here. It helps us all get better. Maybe even Brad will get his vision checked because of it.

[tref]

Originally Posted by Welpe

Did the C "Big Time" you guys a bit? I noticed he is wearing college stripes while you two are not.

He doesnt do ANY college

Toren, I think in this situation we should send players to their benches & all 3 get together instead of two seperate conferences.

The R would've said he "thought" it went in, the C would've said he didnt know & you would have the deciding vote, although it was the Rs ultimate decision.

[Welpe]

Originally Posted by tref

He doesnt do ANY college

Well that figures...and more than a little ironic too. Makes me glad we went to grey for varsity.

[HawkeyeCubP]

Big of you to put this on here for viewing and discussion, Toren. Strong work.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Toren

The coach asked me if we were going to count that as a "3". He did not ask me if he ball went in. I told him "Give us one sec coach, I had a blocked view coach, but we will figure it out." whistle, foul, we start to talk.

I approach the C and he says to me, "I don't know if it went in." I say, okay let me check with the (old) T.

The T says to me, "I think it went in." I say okay, you're the only one who thinks anything, so let's go with that. He went to the scorer's table to count the basket and that's when the C started his whole display about how the ball didn't go in.
At this point, I'm on the sideline thinking "My partner just left us no recourse." He waived off the basket that he wasn't sure went in or didn't.

It was frustrating.

Wow, just wow. He went from "I don't know" to whole hearted fundamentalism that fast?

[Toren]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

Wow, just wow. He went from "I don't know" to whole hearted fundamentalism that fast?

Exactly.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by Toren

...
I approach the C and he says to me, "I don't know if it went in." I say, okay let me check with the (old) T.

The T says to me, "I think it went in." I say okay, you're the only one who thinks anything, so let's go with that. He went to the scorer's table to count the basket and that's when the C started his whole display about how the ball didn't go in. ...

At least my body language eyesight is not bad:

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

I know on my first viewing I wasn't sure the ball went in so I could understand if the C saw it the same way. If you see his converstation with the coach his hand gesturing indicates that he thinks the ball hit below the rim. ...