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Old Tue Feb 14, 2012, 07:02am
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I think the shot came from the grassy knoll.
It's "The Zapruder Film - The Sequel".
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Old Tue Feb 14, 2012, 10:27am
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To hopefully end the debate

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Old Tue Feb 14, 2012, 10:31am
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Old Tue Feb 14, 2012, 10:47am
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Fair enough. I still maintain the video in the OP was not that clear though. So this raises the question, why didn't the L do anything?
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Old Tue Feb 14, 2012, 10:49am
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Fair enough. I still maintain the video in the OP was not that clear though. So this raises the question, why didn't the L do anything?
I still maintain that my eyesight is better than the rest of y'all!!!
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Old Tue Feb 14, 2012, 10:54am
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I still maintain that my eyesight is better than the rest of y'all!!!
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Old Tue Feb 14, 2012, 11:12am
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I still maintain that my eyesight is better than the rest of y'all!!!
Or maybe you just let your brain trick your eyes into seeing what you want them to.
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Old Tue Feb 14, 2012, 11:13am
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Back and to the left.

Back....and to the left.

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Old Tue Feb 14, 2012, 11:12am
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Fair enough. I still maintain the video in the OP was not that clear though. So this raises the question, why didn't the L do anything?
What could the L do? If he suspected the ball went in but his T and his C who had much better angles acted like it didn't and the one player in white acted like he didn't.

It looks like from the video, he gave his thoughts to the C and the T and the call was no good.

Anything else he could have done?
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Old Tue Feb 14, 2012, 11:15am
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Anything else he could have done?
If the L was the R perhaps he could've checked in with the table crew.
If not, he could suggest that the R does so.
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Old Tue Feb 14, 2012, 11:20am
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If the L was the R perhaps he could've checked in with the table crew.
If not, he could suggest that the R does so.
If the three officials don't know and they go to the table...the table is final decision correct?

So if the table says "no goal" then we don't have a goal.
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Old Tue Feb 14, 2012, 11:22am
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If the L was the R perhaps he could've checked in with the table crew.
If not, he could suggest that the R does so.
Too much reliance on titles (R, U1, U2), IMO. If the L wasn't sure, he should have stopped the game and checked with his partners, then the table.
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Old Tue Feb 14, 2012, 11:15am
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What could the L do? If he suspected the ball went in but his T and his C who had much better angles acted like it didn't and the one player in white acted like he didn't.

It looks like from the video, he gave his thoughts to the C and the T and the call was no good.

Anything else he could have done?
It looked to me like the L thought it went in the whole time, based on his body language —*he didn't move to run back up the other way (like you normally would on a steal) ... he waited, as if he was waiting for the other team to take the ball OOB for the throw-in after a made basket.

Whether or not he knew, of course, is another story.

There is a difference between coaches protesting calls and PROTESTING calls ... this one is the latter. You have to recognize these situations and realize that more than likely you have screwed up if the coach, fans, everyone are saying the ball went in. Dozens of people aren't going to lie about that. Go to the table, get some information (someone at the table saw the ball go in, I guarantee you), and fix the problem!
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Old Tue Feb 14, 2012, 11:20am
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[QUOTE=Brad;823810]It looked to me like the L thought it went in the whole time, based on his body language —*he didn't move to run back up the other way (like you normally would on a steal) ... he waited, as if he was waiting for the other team to take the ball OOB for the throw-in after a made basket.

Brad,
If you were lead and you thought the basket was good. What would you do if the ball was not taken out properly?
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Old Tue Feb 14, 2012, 11:21am
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You have to recognize these situations and realize that more than likely you have screwed up if the coach, fans, everyone are saying the ball went in. Dozens of people aren't going to lie about that. Go to the table, get some information (someone at the table saw the ball go in, I guarantee you), and fix the problem!
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If the three officials don't know and they go to the table...the table is final decision correct?

So if the table says "no goal" then we don't have a goal.
The R is the final decision. Table says no, 3 officials say no... no basket.
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