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Camron Rust Tue Feb 14, 2012 01:23pm

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Originally Posted by Toren (Post 823789)


Now that is conclusive...much better screen shots. You must have had access to a better video than what Brad had to get those....or better software.

tref Tue Feb 14, 2012 01:24pm

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Originally Posted by Welpe (Post 823901)
Well that figures...and more than a little ironic too. Makes me glad we went to grey for varsity.

In the regular season we can wear greys, traditional b&w or wide panel for any game, as long as we all wear the same style shirt.

4 days til post season here!!!

Toren Tue Feb 14, 2012 01:33pm

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Originally Posted by tref (Post 823906)
In the regular season we can wear greys, traditional b&w or wide panel for any game, as long as we all wear the same style shirt.

4 days til post season here!!!

Indeed, playoffs right around the corner. Got my first playoff assignment for next Tuesday! First one ever! :eek:

tref Tue Feb 14, 2012 01:35pm

Way 2 g-o!!

Loudwhistle2 Tue Feb 14, 2012 01:47pm

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Originally Posted by Brad (Post 823856)
Blow my whistle and instruct the other team to take the ball OOB for a throw-in.

Agreed, this is one reason I thought the basket wasn't good. Its been proven since that it was. No reaction from the lead made me think it just skimmed the net. And to be totally honest, when I first watched the video I was looking for a foul.

Adam Tue Feb 14, 2012 01:54pm

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Originally Posted by tref (Post 823906)
In the regular season we can wear greys, traditional b&w or wide panel for any game, as long as we all wear the same style shirt.

4 days til post season here!!!

Yeah, I was surprised to see that the C was the only one in the wide panel. We have to match down here.

Toren Tue Feb 14, 2012 01:55pm

Another thing that bothered me
 
Who is judging basket interference? My C and T would have clearly missed that call if it occured. Nobody was looking at the rim.

The offensive player doesn't committ a basket interference, but given the play it was quite possible and someone should have anticipated that likely outcome.

Adam Tue Feb 14, 2012 02:00pm

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Originally Posted by Toren (Post 823916)
Who is judging basket interference? My C and T would have clearly missed that call if it occured. Nobody was looking at the rim.

The offensive player doesn't committ a basket interference, but given the play it was quite possible and someone should have anticipated that likely outcome.

True, but in transition this is tough. The C has a potential pass and crash he needs to watch for. When he sees the ball passed (rather than shot), he's not going to watch the ball most times. Seems to me, this is on T, but I'm not sure where he is. I'm guessing he was just shy of the division line when the ball went in.

Toren Tue Feb 14, 2012 02:04pm

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Originally Posted by Snaqwells (Post 823919)
True, but in transition this is tough. The C has a potential pass and crash he needs to watch for. When he sees the ball passed (rather than shot), he's not going to watch the ball most times. Seems to me, this is on L, but I'm not sure where he is. I'm guessing he was just shy of the division line when the ball went in.

I assume you meant the T on this, but that would make sense since he said "I think it went in" during our conference. That puts me a bit more at ease, I'm just not sure he would have blown the whistle for BI, if it had occured.

Raymond Tue Feb 14, 2012 02:06pm

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Originally Posted by Toren (Post 823875)
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I approach the C and he says to me, "I don't know if it went in." I say, okay let me check with the (old) T.

The T says to me, "I think it went in." I say okay, you're the only one who thinks anything, so let's go with that. He went to the scorer's table to count the basket and that's when the C started his whole display about how the ball didn't go in. ...

At least my body language eyesight is not bad:

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Originally Posted by BadNewsRef (Post 823201)
I know on my first viewing I wasn't sure the ball went in so I could understand if the C saw it the same way. If you see his converstation with the coach his hand gesturing indicates that he thinks the ball hit below the rim. ...


Adam Tue Feb 14, 2012 02:33pm

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Originally Posted by Toren (Post 823920)
I assume you meant the T on this, but that would make sense since he said "I think it went in" during our conference. That puts me a bit more at ease, I'm just not sure he would have blown the whistle for BI, if it had occured.

Yeah, I meant T (corrected it), sorry. I doubt he would have, because his view wasn't that good, and there's no way he should make that call if he's even slightly unsure.

I just think for both, it seems like an understandable error (it's still an error). I have less understanding for the C changing his mind like that. If he was that sure, he should have told you. By doing it that way, he throws the T (R?) under the bus when he comes charging in to announce it didn't go in.

Brad Thu Feb 16, 2012 12:10am

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Originally Posted by Welpe (Post 823891)
Good for you and good for you on putting this out here. It helps us all get better. Maybe even Brad will get his vision checked because of it. :eek::D

Why would I get my vision checked? I was right all along! LOL

I thought it was obvious when watching real-time the first time, more obvious after reviewing, and still obvious after seeing the initial freeze-frame. Glad that Toren found some better photos so that y'all could catch up :)

Toren — don't worry about the guy big-timing you. You did fine with the knowledge you had and the bad situation he put you in. Just learn from the experience!

Welpe Thu Feb 16, 2012 08:37am

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Originally Posted by Brad (Post 824524)
Why would I get my vision checked? I was right all along! LOL

Yes but you will still seeing what you wanted to. :D


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