The CE rules simply require some focused attention - and, I find, a refresher look every once in a while. They are not nearly as complicated as people make them out to be, just very specific.

So, once you learn what qualifies as a CE (not too difficult once you focus on learning it), then learning the timing rules is all you need to do. And even that isn't as complicated as you need, as there are only two different scenarios (clock running or not when the error is made).

Table said "No basket"...after watching the video, makes me think they were completely bias.

Did you have representation from both teams at the table?

No. The officials decision is the final decision. All the table does is provide information.

I keep talking big about going up there to work some games with you, but we'll have to make it happen soon.

There was representation from both teams, but I didn't have the conversation with the table. My R had the conversation.

As many of you probably assumed or figured out, I'm the L in this video.

I suspected the ball went in from the reaction of the crowd, the sound of the net, the movement of the net. But I couldn't be positive because my "focus" was on the big man.

When my C and T started running the other way as if the ball had not entered the basket, I figured they had a much better view and I trusted that the ball had not gone in.

The coach asked me if we were going to count that as a "3". He did not ask me if he ball went in. I told him "Give us one sec coach, I had a blocked view coach, but we will figure it out." whistle, foul, we start to talk.

I approach the C and he says to me, "I don't know if it went in." I say, okay let me check with the (old) T.

The T says to me, "I think it went in." I say okay, you're the only one who thinks anything, so let's go with that. He went to the scorer's table to count the basket and that's when the C started his whole display about how the ball didn't go in.

At this point, I'm on the sideline thinking "My partner just left us no recourse." He waived off the basket that he wasn't sure went in or didn't.

It was frustrating.

I can imagine.

I'm OK with what you did here based upon what you knew at the time. Did the C "Big Time" you guys a bit? I noticed he is wearing college stripes while you two are not. I still would like to know what he saw as a foul also.

Wow, just wow. He went from "I don't know" to whole hearted fundamentalism that fast?

Exactly.

First half he did. And he was ruining the game. Second half, I took control and he shrunk. It was a great learning experience.

Good for you and good for you on putting this out here. It helps us all get better. Maybe even Brad will get his vision checked because of it. :eek::D

He doesnt do ANY college :rolleyes:

Toren, I think in this situation we should send players to their benches & all 3 get together instead of two seperate conferences.

The R would've said he "thought" it went in, the C would've said he didnt know & you would have the deciding vote, although it was the Rs ultimate decision.

Well that figures...and more than a little ironic too. Makes me glad we went to grey for varsity.

Big of you to put this on here for viewing and discussion, Toren. Strong work.

Exactly...the original still shots couldn't even be used to prove there was a ball in the picture much less whether it was or was not in the basket.

However, the later still shots were 100% conclusive....ball in basket.