Situational Officiating

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Duffman

I think it's better let the game be decided in regulation than OT.

I don't think this is relevant.

[Duffman]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

I don't think this is relevant.

I simply meant that officials are under no obligation to make sure close games go to, and are decided in overtime.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Duffman

I simply meant that officials are under no obligation to make sure close games go to, and are decided in overtime.

I agree with that.

[Duffman]

My HS coach once taught me that if the game was decided late by an officials decision it was my own damn fault for letting the game be that close to begin with. I wish more coaches would teach that lesson.

[fullor30]

Originally Posted by The_Rookie

Girls JV.. Rivalry game. With 26.9 left in game, and game is tied at 30. A1 dribbling up the sideline and B1 makes body contact with her 5 feet past midcourt line.

I come in hard with a block call and sell it. 1 and 1 and A1 makes front end and missed 2nd. A up 1 and ends up winning the game 31-30!

D2 official was observing said with the game tied late in game, you need to keep the situation in mind before making the block call.

Her Advice: Pass on the call and let game be decided in OT

Comments please.....

Illegal contact?

[bainsey]

Originally Posted by Duffman

My HS coach once taught me that if the game was decided late by an officials decision it was my own damn fault for letting the game be that close to begin with.

He's partially correct.

Your coach's message is spot on, in that, if you score more points, a late call doesn't affect your goal of winning as much. A game is always decided by the totality of play -- 32 minutes (overtime notwithstanding).

A game is never decided by one call or one play. Everything that happened prior to a late call affects the outcome just as much as that call. Our brains can only take in so much, so naturally, everything gets magnified in the last few minutes. In reality, though, when a game is close, something you kicked in the first quarter could affect the outcome just as much as the end. The big difference is, few people will remember the beginning, and are far more likely to get caught up in the drama at the end.

[The_Rookie]

Originally Posted by JugglingReferee

If that contact was called earlier in the game, then it's a foul now as well. If it wasn't called earlier on, then pass on it now as well.

You mentioned "sell it". Why did you feel that you needed to sell this call? Was it close? Was it a situation not called yet in this game?

1) We called this same type of block a couple of times early in game.

2) The dribbler was slowed up by the contact by did not lose dribble or hit the floor.

3) Because of the tied score very late in game and it being a Rivilary..felt need to come in strong.

4) No complaints from anyone..including coaches or fans on the call

5) Team won game by making clutch free throw

Thanks for all the great advice..will keep this all in mind when faced again with similar circumstances

[billyu2]

Then perhaps the evaluator might need to re-evaluate her philosophy. Definitely a good learning experience for you.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by bainsey

One of the biggest myths, and the biggest in my book

You've got a whole book? Are there pictures?

[APG]

Originally Posted by bainsey

Our brains can only take in so much, so naturally, everything gets magnified in the last few minutes. In reality, though, when a game is close, something you kicked in the first quarter could affect the outcome just as much as the end. The big difference is, few people will remember the beginning, and are far more likely to get caught up in the drama at the end.

I'd say it's more that a team at the end doesn't have as much of a chance to recover from a mistake/missed called at the end of the games than at the beginning of the game.

[bainsey]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

You've got a whole book? Are there pictures?

Yes, but you're too young to see them.

Originally Posted by AllPurposeGamer

I'd say it's more that a team at the end doesn't have as much of a chance to recover from a mistake/missed called at the end of the games than at the beginning of the game.

Maybe, but that doesn't discount the fact that an officiating error in the first half of game can still affect the outcome of a game that ends with a 1-2 point margin. The spirit and intensity that often goes with basketball will cause people to say, "we'll overcome that," but when you look at it objectively and without passion (which isn't easy to do), the error still remains.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

You've got a whole book? Are there pictures?

Originally Posted by bainsey

Yes, but you're too young to see them.

So there's a centerfold? Is it Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.?

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by bainsey

... In reality, though, when a game is close, something you kicked in the first quarter could affect the outcome just as much as the end. The big difference is, few people will remember the beginning, and are far more likely to get caught up in the drama at the end.

In reality a call you kick in the last 2 minutes is going to affect future assignments far more than a call you kick in the 1st half.

You kick a call in the first half and your supervisor will likely chalk it off as a brain-fart or a temporary lapse in concentration. Kick a call in the last 2 minutes of a nail-biter then the supervisor may begin to question whether you can handle the pressure.

[Adam]

Yep, and the fact is, costing a team two points in the first quarter does not have the same effect as improperly waving off a buzzer beater.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

In reality a call you kick in the last 2 minutes is going to affect future assignments far more than a call you kick in the 1st half.

You kick a call in the first half and your supervisor will likely chalk it off as a brain-fart or a temporary lapse in concentration. Kick a call in the last 2 minutes of a nail-biter then the supervisor may begin to question whether you can handle the pressure.

Exactly right. Those that say "a foul in the first half is the same as a foul at the end" are absolutely correct -- but the corollary to this is that a mistake in the first half isn't going to be viewed the same as a mistake at the end of the game.

Perception is reality in many cases. One thing I noticed as the years go on is that we get to the end in a close game and I'm the calmest person in the house. That doesn't happen overnight.