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bainsey Mon Feb 06, 2012 12:54pm

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Originally Posted by Snaqwells (Post 820663)
I'm not sure, but I think Bainsey uses IAABO mechanics.

Correct, so we switch on all fouls. Actually, this wasn't an IAABO-assigned game, so technically, I didn't have to switch, but I like to keep the habits, just the same. (I got zapped on a recent evaluation for implementing a "summer mechanic" into an IABBO game. Not again.)

I not sure that reporting a partner's foul as a huge deal, especially at the level I was working, though I can easily see where that could get someone in a bind. Had the coach asked, "what did he do?", it may look a little silly for me to turn to my partner for the answer.

Smitty Mon Feb 06, 2012 01:09pm

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Originally Posted by bainsey (Post 820667)
I got zapped on a recent evaluation for implementing a "summer mechanic" into an IABBO game. Not again.

You wouldn't get zapped for reporting your partner's foul?

bainsey Mon Feb 06, 2012 01:11pm

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Originally Posted by Smitty (Post 820671)
You wouldn't get zapped for reporting your partner's foul?

Who'd know it, besides my partner?

I'll check local listings, just the same.

Camron Rust Mon Feb 06, 2012 01:45pm

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Originally Posted by bainsey (Post 820672)
Who'd know it, besides my partner?

I'll check local listings, just the same.

When they had a double whistle with fouls on different players, I'm not sure anyone watching would necessarily know which official was calling a foul on which player unless they were so far apart it was obvious.

Raymond Mon Feb 06, 2012 03:27pm

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Originally Posted by bainsey (Post 820667)
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I not sure that reporting a partner's foul as a huge deal, especially at the level I was working, though I can easily see where that could get someone in a bind. Had the coach asked, "what did he do?", it may look a little silly for me to turn to my partner for the answer.

That's exactly what was going through my brain when I first read your scenario.

And of course, if I'm working a level where it's no big deal to relay fouls then I'm likely to extend that to "it's no big deal not to switch".

bainsey Mon Feb 06, 2012 03:42pm

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Originally Posted by BadNewsRef (Post 820724)
I'm working a level where it's no big deal to relay fouls then I'm likely to extend that to "it's no big deal not to switch".

Let's consider the motivations.

If you're doing NFHS mechanics, which require the reporting official to take the trail for the free throws, then you might say, "I had that one, so I'll report it."

If you're doing IAABO mechanics, which require a switch every single time, you might say, "you have to administer anyway, so I'll report it."

The "summer mechanics" around these parts usually mean switching on shooting fouls only (or often, when convenient, especially in running-time games), so a switch would have taken place just the same.

Adam Mon Feb 06, 2012 04:00pm

I agree with BNR, I'm much more likely to skip a switch than to relay a foul. I would think the relay would be a bigger deal than the switch, but you know what they say about the Romans.


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