Originally Posted by Tebo2526 (Post 818595)

On this subject, what if a player claps his hands together after missing a shot and says "damn", obviously frustrated with himself. No hears it but the referee he's running beside back down the court? Isn't that a little much or would you T him up as well. Just curious, cause it happened.

Originally Posted by Tebo2526 (Post 818595)

On this subject, what if a player claps his hands together after missing a shot and says "damn", obviously frustrated with himself. No hears it but the referee he's running beside back down the court? Isn't that a little much or would you T him up as well. Just curious, cause it happened.

Originally Posted by bob jenkins (Post 818605)

Judgment.

In some areas, at some ages, to some referees, this would be profanity.

In other areas, at other ages, to other referees, a loud MF (to the ball, basket, self) would not be profanity.

In most areas, to most referees, the line is somewhere in the middle (and might depend on what else has happened that night).

Originally Posted by bob jenkins (Post 818605)

Judgment.

In some areas, at some ages, to some referees, this would be profanity.

In other areas, at other ages, to other referees, a loud MF (to the ball, basket, self) would not be profanity.

In most areas, to most referees, the line is somewhere in the middle (and might depend on what else has happened that night).

Originally Posted by Tebo2526 (Post 818613)

HS Boy's Varsity, blow-out game, kid hit 4 in a row and missed the 5th. Had no bearing on the game and wasn't a big issue. I just thought it was a little over the top. Explanation given to the coach was exactly what I said. No big deal, but I've heard worse and nobody heard this......

Originally Posted by zm1283 (Post 818615)

If no one else heard it, and "damn" was all he said, I wouldn't consider it anywhere close to over the top, and I wouldn't feel like the coach needed an explanation. Just my two cents...

Originally Posted by Tebo2526 (Post 818619)

I meant I thought the call was over the top.

I think they at least need to fill people in on why the call was made. If not, you got a 17 year old kid explaining how he "didn't say anything!!!!". Just sayin

Originally Posted by Snaqwells (Post 818621)

Oh, they called this. In that case, explain to the player and coach that they're always better off not giving us a decision to make.

Originally Posted by tref (Post 818579)

As you gain experience you will come to understand that as long as they're keeping score in a competitive setting & once the clock reads triple zeros, we will have a winner & a loser. Half of the people involved (coaches/players/fans) will not like your call half of the time.

You will either accept this or continue to let it bother you. Remember, our appearance, signals & court presence are what commands respect long before we blow our whistle. Our attitude toward pushback should be, "what I do speaks so loud that I cannot hear what you say."

We cannot control the respect of fans, but improving our call accuracy will lead to credibility & if we're lucky, everything else falls into place.

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef (Post 817912)

Why did you think that?

Originally Posted by YooperRef (Post 818719)

I thought rebounding your own airball was legal (4.44 Sit. B). I read the sentence by fiasco, "A myth is something people think is true but really is not, like being able to catch your own airball.", as people think it's true that you are able to catch your own airball but it's not. I just interpreted the sentence differently. I had a long discussion with a parent of one of the VB players last week about this and had to show him the case play before he would believe me.

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef (Post 818724)

You're right. I mis-read your post. Catching your own airball is legal and it's a myth that you can't. But that's one rule I think fans are starting to learn. I'm starting to see instances where it happens and no moans come from the crowd.

Originally Posted by Snaqwells (Post 818737)

Next step: high dribble.

Originally Posted by bainsey (Post 818738)

That's what we need: A good ol' myth checklist.