Originally Posted by BadNewsRef (Post 816329)

No, because the ball is not in possession of the thrower nor being passed to a teammate outside of the boundary line. So it would just be a DOG for crossing the throw-in boundary-line plane.

Originally Posted by amusedofficial (Post 816995)

If the resumption of play procedure has been followed, is not the ball then at the disposal of the thrower, whomever that may turn out to be?

Originally Posted by RichMSN (Post 816981)

You consider the "first horn" warning by the official to be stupid? It's standard procedure everywhere I've lived.

Originally Posted by just another ref (Post 816967)

2-12 Timers Duties

Art. 4 Sound a warning signal 15 seconds before the expiration of an intermission or time-out, immediately after which the players shall prepare to resume play..........

On top of that, many places an official approaches the huddle at the first horn to say, "First horn, white! Let's go!" (stupid and redundant imo)

Assuming part of this procedure was done, consider yourself duly warned.

Originally Posted by just another ref (Post 817108)

It's standard procedure here. But if they didn't hear/react to the horn, why would the official repeating the warning a second later be helpful?

Originally Posted by Snaqwells (Post 817165)

Believe me, it helps.

Originally Posted by just another ref (Post 817239)

Sometimes, maybe it does. Sometimes, it obviously doesn't.

Originally Posted by bainsey (Post 816311)

last week, competitve ms girls.

Start of the second quarter, v's ball, my partner is the r. The second warning horn sounds, and both teams are still huddling. My partner looks at me, i nod, and he sets the ball down and starts counting.

Team v doesn't have a clue, but team h comes out of the huddle, sees the ball, and high-tails it to the opposite side to pick it up. Tweet, dog warning, and v has been bailed out.

Cut to the third quarter, 30-second time-out, v's ball, opposite sideline. H is on the floor in time, but v is still huddling at the second buzzer. This time, i perform the rop, but this time, the right time sprints to beat the five-second count.

The humorous part was a loudmouth in the second row who didn't like the rop one bit. (tweet, red ball) "give them a warning, give them a warning." (ball set.) that's crap! That's crap!" i wonder how he and his team missed both warning horns, both times.

Originally Posted by refiator (Post 817425)

You MUST make eye contact with the coach when you alert "first horn" at the 15 second warning in a time out.
This happened to me ...once, and never again..... when the 1st horn sounded, I went to the huddle and said "First Horn". The gym was packed and very loud. I did not notice whether the coach heard me....When the second horn sounded, team B was on the court and ready to play....Team A was still huddled.......Partner put the ball on the floor...Resumption of play.....Coach A was unaware that either horn had had sounded due to the noise in the gym.....
Don't let yourself get into a bad situation as it is easy to avoid in this case.
Fortunately, no violation occurred, but a good teachable moment for us.
Yes, the coach SHOULD have someone watching the time, but if not, you can avoid problems by simple actions.

Originally Posted by RichMSN (Post 817507)

I won't disturb a head coach -- that's what the handful of assistants are for. If I tell one of them, I've fulfilled my duty.

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef (Post 816997)

I believe the rule actually says "possession" and not "disposal".

Just checked. Reads: "...touches or dislodges the ball while in possession of the thrower or being passed to a teammate outside the boundary line "