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[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by Andy

Lost a bit of respect for him that day, but learned that do as I say, not as I do is the norm.

Why? He can clearly referee with those achievements and he was trying to make you a better official than he was by having you do the things correctly that he doesn't in additional to all the other stuff he was teaching.

[fiasco]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

Why? He can clearly referee with those achievements and he was trying to make you a better official than he was by having you do the things correctly that he doesn't in additional to all the other stuff he was teaching.

There's a difference between having an attitude of "this is why this works for me but won't work for you," and "don't you dare question me, rookie."

The former I respect. The latter I don't.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by fiasco

There's a difference between having an attitude of "this is why this works for me but won't work for you," and "don't you dare question me, rookie."

The former I respect. The latter I don't.

Sometimes people need to be put in their place. And if you wanted to know why someone does not do it the exactly the way they teach, you might learn more by watching then always have to confront someone.

Look officiating is not something where we are robots. I know people want to make it that way, but that is not the case. And I have yet to know anyone hired for officiating just because they have perfect mechanics. And I have yet to seen anyone held back for those reasons either.

Peace

[fiasco]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

Sometimes people need to be put in their place.

Agreed. Sometimes those people are rookies, and sometimes they're veterans.

[Bad Zebra]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

Sometimes people need to be put in their place...
Peace

Interesting response. What place would that be for a fellow, probably junior, official?

[Andy]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

Why? He can clearly referee with those achievements and he was trying to make you a better official than he was by having you do the things correctly that he doesn't in additional to all the other stuff he was teaching.

Yes...he could referee...he was also an arrogant SOB....

It's just that mecahnics and signals were hammered so hard at that time and it was implied that sharp mechanics and signals and rule knowledge were the path to high level officiating, then to learn that the "intangibles" were just as, if not more important in your advancement didn't sit well with me.

I understand now why it is the way it is, but didn't get it at that time.

Part of it is also personal with me...I don't feel comfortable teaching and instructing a certain method and then not using that method when I'm on the court or field. I feel that it undermines my credibility as a mentor and instructor.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by Andy

Yes...he could referee...he was also an arrogant SOB....

It's just that mecahnics and signals were hammered so hard at that time and it was implied that sharp mechanics and signals and rule knowledge were the path to high level officiating, then to learn that the "intangibles" were just as, if not more important in your advancement didn't sit well with me.

I understand now why it is the way it is, but didn't get it at that time.

Part of it is also personal with me...I don't feel comfortable teaching and instructing a certain method and then not using that method when I'm on the court or field. I feel that it undermines my credibility as a mentor and instructor.

Did you have a friendship with the instructor or was he someone you just knew professionally? You said it was a rookie camp. Then a month later you observe him working a game with sloppy mechanics. If you were just some random rookie official he might now have appreciated being "questioned" about what he does on the court.