"I don't know what that means." (LGP)

[stiffler3492]

Originally Posted by bainsey

Coach A verbalizes loudly for a foul on B-1.

Me: "The defender had LGP all the way, Coach."
Coach: "I don't know what that means!"

Okay, granted, this was a middle school game. Still, shouldn't all coaches know a valuable rule concept like LGP?

Heck no. Coaches at the high school level don't know what this means. It's not their job to know what it means.

If this happened to me, I would say "What the defender did was legal, coach." and leave it at that.

[just another ref]

Originally Posted by bainsey

Me: "The defender had LGP all the way, Coach."

Originally Posted by stiffler3492

If this happened to me, I would say "What the defender did was legal, coach." and leave it at that.

How often do we feel compelled to give any explanation for a foul call?

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by just another ref

How often do we feel compelled to give any explanation for a foul call?

I cannot speak for them, but at least in a 3 Person game, you are often in front of a coach and will get asked about a call even when you did not make it. Sometimes you cannot just ignore them.

Peace

[just another ref]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

I cannot speak for them, but at least in a 3 Person game, you are often in front of a coach and will get asked about a call even when you did not make it. Sometimes you cannot just ignore them.

Peace

Sure, I discuss calls with coaches when it's convenient, but not because the coach:

Originally Posted by bainsey

verbalizes loudly

[JRutledge]

I do agree with that. But sometimes when they are loud they need to be addressed or they will get louder and you will really have to do something about it.

Peace

[just another ref]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

I do agree with that. But sometimes when they are loud they need to be addressed.........

Yep. Two words: E NUFF

I never answer a question that is shouted at me.


No, he didn't! Yes, he did! is worst case scenario.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by just another ref

Yep. Two words: E NUFF

I never answer a question that is shouted at me.


No, he didn't! Yes, he did! is worst case scenario.

I guess I did not read it the way you did. I did not take the OP as when a coach was shouting. Some coaches just are loud, that does not mean they are shouting at you. At least that is the case in my experience.

Peace

[bainsey]

Originally Posted by stiffler3492

Coaches at the high school level don't know what this means. It's not their job to know what it means.

I disagree. If they don't know what this means, they're putting themselves in a huge hole. How can you effectively teach the game if you don't have a thorough rules knowledge, let alone being able to effectively communicate with officials?

[stiffler3492]

Originally Posted by bainsey

I disagree. If they don't know what this means, they're putting themselves in a huge hole. How can you effectively teach the game if you don't have a thorough rules knowledge, let alone being able to effectively communicate with officials?

Having good rules knowledge can certainly help coaches. But, at least the coaches I've dealt with, apparently don't spend any time teaching their kids the finer points of the rule book. They're worried about coaching basketball, and they let us worry about the rules.

[bowlingref]

Most high school coaches have never read a rule book. In Va. each school is given one by the VHSL every year. I think the schools recycle them to help the environment.

[Adam]

The number of coaches who know this rule (and quite a few others) is small enough to make them the exception rather than the rule. Middle school even more so.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by bainsey

How can you effectively teach the game if you don't have a thorough rules knowledge, let alone being able to effectively communicate with officials?

Which is exactly why I, as a middle school coach, took the classes offered by the local official's board over thirty years ago. I didn't even plan to take the test, I just wanted to learn the rules. I ended up taking, and passing, the test, and discovered that I could make same extra cash (teachers weren't paid much back then) officiating games. I stopped coaching after over twenty-five years (if asked today, I would only coach a team of orphans). I'm still officiating, and plan to keep doing it as long as I'm healthy.

[zm1283]

I had a GV game yesterday where I called a PC foul on the V team as the Trail. One of my partners told me that as I was reporting, the H coach was asking him why we weren't shooting free throws.

This was the same call where the V coach asked me what her girl did. I told her she used her forearm to displace the defender. She told me "That hasn't been called all weekend" (This was a tourney). I just told her that I hadn't been there all weekend so I don't know what or wasn't called.

[kwatson]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

Which is exactly why I, as a middle school coach, took the classes offered by the local official's board over thirty years ago. I didn't even plan to take the test, I just wanted to learn the rules. I ended up taking, and passing, the test, and discovered that I could make same extra cash (teachers weren't paid much back then) officiating games. I stopped coaching after over twenty-five years (if asked today, I would only coach a team of orphans). I'm still officiating, and plan to keep doing it as long as I'm healthy.

Took me a second, but that is funny!!

[SNIPERBBB]

Originally Posted by kwatson

Took me a second, but that is funny!!

Its a sad statement regarding the current state of affairs regarding student athletes' parents.