Official Attacked

[Welpe]

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This happened at a Houston ISD middle school, a school where I've worked games in the past.

Many times, especially during middle school games, my partners seem to not understand why I make it a point to leave as quickly as possible. It's bad enough I have to go to the table to grab my jacket, but some partners want to stay and chat, change shoes, etc. Protect yourselves out there folks. Keep your awareness heightened and get out of there ASAP.

[Toren]

Originally Posted by Welpe

Referee attacked after basketball game | News - Home

This happened at a Houston ISD middle school, a school where I've worked games in the past.

Many times, especially during middle school games, my partners seem to not understand why I make it a point to leave as quickly as possible. It's bad enough I have to go to the table to grab my jacket, but some partners want to stay and chat, change shoes, etc. Protect yourselves out there folks. Keep your awareness heightened and get out of there ASAP.

Time to boycott that school. If the school isn't stepping up, if people aren't saying who is responsible, someone saw it but they aren't saying, then it's time to not have officials there.

It's sad that this happened.

[Welpe]

I don't work for that particular chapter anymore but when I did, I swore off middle school games for certain districts. My concern over my personal safety and the apparent disinterest of those schools to ensure it being the major reason.

[JRutledge]

One more reason I cannot stand working those games anymore. You work with guys that do not have a clue and the fans do not have a clue. I am sure this person's kid will not even remember the outcome in a week and people treat it like they just lost the NBA Finals in a regular season, nothing game.

Peace

[tref]

Apply for a CCW people... nevermind that happened in TX.

[Mark Padgett]

This is why I carry an AK-47 in my bag.

[Welpe]

Originally Posted by tref

Apply for a CCW people... nevermind that happened in TX.

Oh we have them here, they're just called a CHL instead of a CCW.

[gdudik]

Originally Posted by tref

Apply for a CCW people... nevermind that happened in TX.

Is wondering if that would come up. I just started carrying a .357. I still haven't figured out how to carry comfortably on the court though, and I'm very hesitant to leave it in my bag. Usually I just leave it locked in the car, but that does me no good.

Edit: I just realized that most schools are "gun free zones" and if you're even caught with a weapon on school grounds, you could face some sort of charges.

[bainsey]

From the story...

Sanders said the attacker waited until his vision was obstructed as he was changing clothes, and until another referee left his side.

Changing on the floor? Don't they provide a room for that?

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by bainsey

From the story...



Changing on the floor? Don't they provide a room for that?

You would be surprised. There are many places you have to insist on a changing or private room as they do not seem to understand the inherent problem with not doing so. And you deal with officials (if you read previous threads) that seem to not insist on having a room for anything.

Peace

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by bainsey

From the story...



Changing on the floor? Don't they provide a room for that?

At a middle school? From my experiences more often "no" than "yes".

Remember the big discussion we had about officials changing in parking lots or coming dressed to games?

[Eastshire]

Originally Posted by bainsey

From the story...



Changing on the floor? Don't they provide a room for that?

In my experience, very rarely is a room provided that is suitable for changing for JH games.

[Welpe]

Originally Posted by gdudik

Is wondering if that would come up. I just started carrying a .357. I still haven't figured out how to carry comfortably on the court though, and I'm very hesitant to leave it in my bag. Usually I just leave it locked in the car, but that does me no good.

Edit: I just realized that most schools are "gun free zones" and if you're even caught with a weapon on school grounds, you could face some sort of charges.

Don't even think about carrying on a court and don't leave it where it can't be securely locked up. There is an exception in the Federal gun free zone law for CHL/CCW/CWP holders but here in Texas you cannot legally carry in a school building or where a school sponsored activity is in progress. I'd be surprised if OR doesn't have similar laws on the books.

[TimTaylor]

Originally Posted by Welpe

Don't even think about carrying on a court and don't leave it where it can't be securely locked up. There is an exception in the Federal gun free zone law for CHL/CCW/CWP holders but here in Texas you cannot legally carry in a school building or where a school sponsored activity is in progress. I'd be surprised if OR doesn't have similar laws on the books.

Not exactly. ORS 166.370 specifies that carrying a weapon in a public building (which includes public schools), loaded or unloaded, is a class C felony. The law has an exception provision for those with a license to carry a concealed handgun. There is also an exception that allows an unloaded weapon locked in a vehicle.

In 2005 there was a unsuccessful attempt to amend the law to allow a school district board to prohibit CCW license holders from carrying on school premises and other school sanctioned activities. It failed primarily because it was overly broad in scope.

Private facilities are free to restrict weapon possession in any way they choose. The clinic that my wife work for, for example, won't even allow an off duty LEO to carry on premises - they must lock the weapon in their car.

That said, carrying a weapon to a sporting event is, IMHO, a really really bad idea.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by gdudik

I still haven't figured out how to carry comfortably on the court though.