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Old Fri Jan 20, 2012, 12:52pm
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Is wondering if that would come up. I just started carrying a .357. I still haven't figured out how to carry comfortably on the court though, and I'm very hesitant to leave it in my bag. Usually I just leave it locked in the car, but that does me no good.

Edit: I just realized that most schools are "gun free zones" and if you're even caught with a weapon on school grounds, you could face some sort of charges.
Don't even think about carrying on a court and don't leave it where it can't be securely locked up. There is an exception in the Federal gun free zone law for CHL/CCW/CWP holders but here in Texas you cannot legally carry in a school building or where a school sponsored activity is in progress. I'd be surprised if OR doesn't have similar laws on the books.
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Old Fri Jan 20, 2012, 04:18pm
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Don't even think about carrying on a court and don't leave it where it can't be securely locked up. There is an exception in the Federal gun free zone law for CHL/CCW/CWP holders but here in Texas you cannot legally carry in a school building or where a school sponsored activity is in progress. I'd be surprised if OR doesn't have similar laws on the books.
Not exactly. ORS 166.370 specifies that carrying a weapon in a public building (which includes public schools), loaded or unloaded, is a class C felony. The law has an exception provision for those with a license to carry a concealed handgun. There is also an exception that allows an unloaded weapon locked in a vehicle.

In 2005 there was a unsuccessful attempt to amend the law to allow a school district board to prohibit CCW license holders from carrying on school premises and other school sanctioned activities. It failed primarily because it was overly broad in scope.

Private facilities are free to restrict weapon possession in any way they choose. The clinic that my wife work for, for example, won't even allow an off duty LEO to carry on premises - they must lock the weapon in their car.

That said, carrying a weapon to a sporting event is, IMHO, a really really bad idea.
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Old Fri Jan 20, 2012, 04:35pm
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I work a lot of JH ball for my local junior high. I go to the game dressed, except for my shoes. They open the coaches office for us, which is right off the gym floor. People are in and out of there all the time, so I don't take anything that I won't need on the floor with me.

There's only one exit, and I always am a little wary if it was a close game...you never do know. I've never had any problems there, but it only takes one bad apple.
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Old Fri Jan 20, 2012, 04:47pm
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Private facilities are free to restrict weapon possession in any way they choose. The clinic that my wife work for, for example, won't even allow an off duty LEO to carry on premises - they must lock the weapon in their car.
Perhaps so, but I suspect it is just a policy. I doubt they have any direct legal manner to enforce their policies aside from not allowing the person access to the premises under threat of trespassing charges. If such a person were to be on the property with a weapon, it wouldn't be a criminal offense like it would if they were to have a gun in a school or court house.
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Old Fri Jan 20, 2012, 05:01pm
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Perhaps so, but I suspect it is just a policy. I doubt they have any direct legal manner to enforce their policies aside from not allowing the person access to the premises under threat of trespassing charges. If such a person were to be on the property with a weapon, it wouldn't be a criminal offense like it would if they were to have a gun in a school or court house.
Correct. If someone refuses to comply, about all they can do is notify the individual that they must immediately leave the premises. If they then refuse to leave they can be arrested for criminal trespass, but possession of a weapon with appropriate permit to carry, in and of itself isn't a criminal offense under those circumstances.
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Old Fri Jan 20, 2012, 06:12pm
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Not exactly. ORS 166.370 specifies that carrying a weapon in a public building (which includes public schools), loaded or unloaded, is a class C felony. The law has an exception provision for those with a license to carry a concealed handgun. There is also an exception that allows an unloaded weapon locked in a vehicle.

In 2005 there was a unsuccessful attempt to amend the law to allow a school district board to prohibit CCW license holders from carrying on school premises and other school sanctioned activities. It failed primarily because it was overly broad in scope.

Private facilities are free to restrict weapon possession in any way they choose. The clinic that my wife work for, for example, won't even allow an off duty LEO to carry on premises - they must lock the weapon in their car.

That said, carrying a weapon to a sporting event is, IMHO, a really really bad idea.
Thank you for your information. I agree carrying a weapon to a sporting event sounds like a really bad idea; I was more thinking out loud than anything else. However, I did not know that there was an exception on the books for CHL holders.
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Old Fri Jan 20, 2012, 06:32pm
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Not exactly. ORS 166.370 specifies that carrying a weapon in a public building (which includes public schools), loaded or unloaded, is a class C felony. The law has an exception provision for those with a license to carry a concealed handgun. There is also an exception that allows an unloaded weapon locked in a vehicle.

In 2005 there was a unsuccessful attempt to amend the law to allow a school district board to prohibit CCW license holders from carrying on school premises and other school sanctioned activities. It failed primarily because it was overly broad in scope.

Private facilities are free to restrict weapon possession in any way they choose. The clinic that my wife work for, for example, won't even allow an off duty LEO to carry on premises - they must lock the weapon in their car.

That said, carrying a weapon to a sporting event is, IMHO, a really really bad idea.
For the bigger city refs, would a taser be a decent compromise? No idea on the law as far as owning or possessing one.
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Old Fri Jan 20, 2012, 11:12pm
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Not exactly....snip.
Interesting, thanks for setting me straight.

I still wouldn't carry while working a game...especially if I know the table personnel have their TASERS handy.
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Old Fri Jan 20, 2012, 11:42pm
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Interesting, thanks for setting me straight.

I still wouldn't carry while working a game...especially if I know the table personnel have their TASERS handy.
Or maybe there is a shoe design like the one in that early James Bond movie.
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