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[fullor30]

Several threads on this already I believe but perused a couple and couldn't find definitive answer.

Please list switch scenarios going long as it relates to C reporting foul.
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Dazed and confused.

[Scrapper1]

These are all fouls called in the frontcourt and "going long".

C tableside calls foul + ball to be put in play tableside = C becomes C opposite table.

C tableside calls foul + ball to be put in play opposite table = C become New Lead opposite table.

C opposite table calls foul + ball to be put in play tableside = C remains C opposite table.

C opposite table calls foul + ball to be put in play opposite table = C becomes New Lead opposite table.

[PG_Ref]

Originally Posted by fullor30

Several threads on this already I believe but perused a couple and couldn't find definitive answer.

Please list switch scenarios going long as it relates to C reporting foul.
.
Dazed and confused.

NFHS Officials Manual

3.4.5 There is no switch under the following circumstances:

a. A foul in the backcourt going to the frontcourt with no free throws.
This is treated the same as a violation in the backcourt.
A "bump and run" may be necessary.

b. When the calling official is already the tableside trail.

c. When the tableside Center makes a call in which the ball will be taken out of bounds opposite the table staying in the frontcourt. This should be a rare situation, as this would likely be outside the Center's PCA.

[fullor30]

Originally Posted by Scrapper1

These are all fouls called in the frontcourt and "going long".

C tableside calls foul + ball to be put in play tableside = C becomes C opposite table.

C tableside calls foul + ball to be put in play opposite table = C become New Lead opposite table.

C opposite table calls foul + ball to be put in play tableside = C remains C opposite table.

C opposite table calls foul + ball to be put in play opposite table = C becomes New Lead opposite table.

Perfect and precise

Thanks!

goofed last scenario last night, slid over as lead to opposite table and made C stay table side.

[fullor30]

Originally Posted by PG_Ref

NFHS Officials Manual

3.4.5 There is no switch under the following circumstances:

a. A foul in the backcourt going to the frontcourt with no free throws.
This is treated the same as a violation in the backcourt.
A "bump and run" may be necessary.

b. When the calling official is already the tableside trail.

As it only pertains to C was what was giving me brain fart.

[tref]

Originally Posted by fullor30

Perfect and precise

Thanks!

goofed last scenario last night, slid over as lead to opposite table and made C stay table side.

So you were tableside L before the whistle?

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by Scrapper1

These are all fouls called in the frontcourt and "going long".

C tableside calls foul + ball to be put in play tableside = C becomes C opposite table.

C tableside calls foul + ball to be put in play opposite table = C become New Lead opposite table.

C opposite table calls foul + ball to be put in play tableside = C remains C opposite table.

C opposite table calls foul + ball to be put in play opposite table = C becomes New Lead opposite table.

Not true, at least here (and where fullor30 works).

The old L / new T administers all throw-ins in the BC. The other officials just slide down the court but stay on their own side (table or opposite) to be C and L as required.

So,

1) C becomes L tableside ("bump and run")
2) C becomes C tableside
3) same as above
4) same as above ("bump and run")

[rockyroad]

Originally Posted by Scrapper1

These are all fouls called in the frontcourt and "going long".

C tableside calls foul + ball to be put in play tableside = C becomes C opposite table.

C tableside calls foul + ball to be put in play opposite table = C become New Lead opposite table.

C opposite table calls foul + ball to be put in play tableside = C remains C opposite table.

C opposite table calls foul + ball to be put in play opposite table = C becomes New Lead opposite table.

Scrapper,

Is this the NCAA-M mechanics?

Cause around here, we do HS games the way Bob posted (always listen to Bob).

[tref]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

Not true, at least here (and where fullor30 works).

The old L / new T administers all throw-ins in the BC. The other officials just slide down the court but stay on their own side (table or opposite) to be C and L as required.

So,

1) C becomes L tableside ("bump and run")
2) C becomes C tableside
3) same as above
4) same as above ("bump and run")

The calling official doesnt go opposite when going long?

[Indianaref]

Originally Posted by fullor30

Perfect and precise

Not high school.

[Indianaref]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

Not true, at least here (and where fullor30 works).

The old L / new T administers all throw-ins in the BC. The other officials just slide down the court but stay on their own side (table or opposite) to be C and L as required.

So,

1) C becomes L tableside ("bump and run")
2) C becomes C tableside
3) same as above
4) same as above ("bump and run")

Perfect and precise

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by tref

The calling official doesnt go opposite when going long?

No. It's treated just the same as a violation. Would you have the calling official go opposite on a travel call?

[tref]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

No. It's treated just the same as a violation. Would you have the calling official go opposite on a travel call?

Nope, just goes to show how much things are different depending on where one officiates.
Here we go opposite after each call in HS like NCAA-M.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by tref

Nope, just goes to show how much things are different depending on where one officiates.
Here we go opposite after each call in HS like NCAA-M.

I meant the question as something an official here should ask him/herself when trying to fiugre out where to go.

In general, the calling official goes tableside.

It's trumped by the "old L / new T administers all throwins in the BC" procedure.

[tref]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

I meant the question as something an official here should ask him/herself when trying to fiugre out where to go.

In general, the calling official goes tableside.

It's trumped by the "old L / new T administers all throwins in the BC" procedure.

Got it. We have that procedure as well, its just that the calling official will never be the new tableside T.