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Old Tue Jan 24, 2012, 12:25am
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When the words "definite knowledge" appear in the book, it has nothing to do with accuracy. It means don't guess. I definitely counted. I definitely asked that guy in the stands that I noticed was holding a stopwatch. etc.

It means "The clock didn't start. How much time do y'all suppose elapsed? About 8 or 10 seconds will be close enough," is not allowed.

Which is not to say that some officials don't do it anyway.
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Old Tue Jan 24, 2012, 02:01am
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I definitely asked that guy in the stands that I noticed was holding a stopwatch. etc.
That is NOT definite knowledge. You have no idea if they did or did not correctly time the event you're asking about or their impartiality.
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Old Tue Jan 24, 2012, 02:21am
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That is NOT definite knowledge. You have no idea if they did or did not correctly time the event you're asking about or their impartiality.
The hypothetical guy was my dad.
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Old Tue Jan 24, 2012, 03:31am
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The hypothetical guy was my dad.
And I was supposed to read you mind???
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Old Tue Jan 24, 2012, 03:45am
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And I was supposed to read you mind???
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Seriously, the point was that definite knowledge meant that obtained from a solid source deemed reliable as opposed to a guess, by the official or anyone else. It is a given that no timing device can be 100% accurate in this situation.

My dad passed away in '94, and for a while before that I wouldn't have trusted him with a stopwatch.
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Old Tue Jan 24, 2012, 12:27pm
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Seriously, the point was that definite knowledge meant that obtained from a solid source deemed reliable as opposed to a guess, by the official or anyone else. It is a given that no timing device can be 100% accurate in this situation.

My dad passed away in '94, and for a while before that I wouldn't have trusted him with a stopwatch.
I think I'd draw the line at getting help from someone, even a trusted someone, in the stands.
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Old Tue Jan 24, 2012, 08:38pm
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I think I'd draw the line at getting help from someone, even a trusted someone, in the stands.
Mother Teresa? Gandhi? Jesus? Dr. M. L. King, Jr.? Lincoln?
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