Buzzer Beater or not?

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by BLydic

Wow, either your vision or pc monitor is exceptional.

I saw the same thing. Not sure how good my computer is, but that is what I saw too.

Peace

[bainsey]

Originally Posted by pizanno

Dude was guessing. And if you're guessing, count it.

I believe this is true. I believe you must have definite knowledge that a release was late.

When I looked at the embeded video, I was certain this was good, but after looking at the OP's link, I'm not so sure. The audio synchs on these uploads play a huge role in these discussions.

[fortmoney]

You guys with plenty of experience - does the score influence your decision on this? You would think that if it really is a 50/50 call, the one that would result in a tie would be favored. That way the kids can still decide the outcome?

[SCalScoreKeeper]

When I saw this video last night I was wondering why the C comes all the way tableside to wave that basket off? We don't do a lot of three man out here until postseason but table crews know to watch the center for his/her count it/wave off signal.To me coming all the way over and pausing before waving it off insults the table crew's intelligence and eyesight.Unless you are going to ask for help give the wave off/count it signal,grab your jacket (shake hands with your table crew if situation allows) and get out.Does anyone think he left his partners in a precarious spot if there was a storming of the court? I thought at speed he barely got it away before the clock struck triple 0.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by fortmoney

You guys with plenty of experience - does the score influence your decision on this? You would think that if it really is a 50/50 call, the one that would result in a tie would be favored. That way the kids can still decide the outcome?

The score has no influence on any decision I make in these situations. I call what I see and I try to get into a best position to make the call appropriately. Not sure what you mean by "That way the kids decide the outcome." The kids are deciding the outcome, I am just making the right call to the best of my abilities.

Peace

[eyezen]

Originally Posted by fortmoney

You guys with plenty of experience - does the score influence your decision on this? You would think that if it really is a 50/50 call, the one that would result in a tie would be favored. That way the kids can still decide the outcome?

No

[Adam]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

The score has no influence on any decision I make in these situations. I call what I see and I try to get into a best position to make the call appropriately. Not sure what you mean by "That way the kids decide the outcome." The kids are deciding the outcome, I am just making the right call to the best of my abilities.

Peace

Agreed. I'm not good enough to change my reactions based on the score.

[Loudwhistle2]

Originally Posted by jrutledge

the score has no influence on any decision i make in these situations. I call what i see and i try to get into a best position to make the call appropriately. Not sure what you mean by "that way the kids decide the outcome." the kids are deciding the outcome, i am just making the right call to the best of my abilities.

Peace

+1

[bainsey]

Originally Posted by fortmoney

does the score influence your decision on this?

Emphatic NO. We do our jobs with what's in front of us, not what's behind us.

Originally Posted by JRutledge

Not sure what you mean by "That way the kids decide the outcome."

I think we all know what he means, and it's a naïve thought process.

In a close game, battled over 32 minutes, things we do will indeed affect the game's outcome. It could happen in the first half (and therefore go largely unnoticed) or in the last few minutes (and become under a microscope).

Human memory can only take on so much, but with so much minutia going on in a basketball game, when the final score is close, you can almost always look back and see that, if you called something differently, the result could have been different. Since most only remember the last part of a game, though, that's why we wind up with statements like, "the kids decide the outcome." In truth, though, there's a lot taking place in the totality of the game, and everyone on the floor plays a role. Like the players on the floor, we officials can only do our best.

[rockyroad]

Anyone got a travel on blue #50???

[JugglingReferee]

Originally Posted by rockyroad

Anyone got a travel on blue #50???

YU.P.

That's a travel. No basket.

[rockyroad]

Originally Posted by JugglingReferee

YU.P.

That's a travel. No basket.

That's what I saw the first time I watched it...then every time I watched the replay...call the travel, no basket.

[SCalScoreKeeper]

good eyes rockyroad,
Didn't even look for the travel on that play! I just posted it mainly to get everyone's thoughts on how the center handled the wave-off.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by fortmoney

You guys with plenty of experience - does the score influence your decision on this? You would think that if it really is a 50/50 call, the one that would result in a tie would be favored. That way the kids can still decide the outcome?

If a team is down by a bunch, I'll be more likely to count it -- especially if it's the 12th man shooting.

If the score is +/- 10 or so, then I call what I see.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by rockyroad

Anyone got a travel on blue #50???

Yes, but I'm doubting that's going to get called even 10% of the time in this situation.